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Skybird 04-30-14 09:09 AM

Global firepower military ranking 2014
 
For number-fetishists. :smug:

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp

Jimbuna 04-30-14 09:49 AM

I'm surprised Israel only rank 11th.

Skybird 04-30-14 10:23 AM

Good, but small.

BossMark 04-30-14 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2202351)
I'm surprised Israel only rank 11th.

And I am even more shocked that we are ranked 5th..............

mapuc 04-30-14 12:09 PM

One thing is how strong military and how much of the stuff you have a whole other thing is....effectiveness

What I understand or have heard is that Israel is a clean number 1 when it comes to that.

Markus

Rhodes 04-30-14 12:30 PM

#53, uhhuuuuu! :Kaleun_Applaud:

TarJak 04-30-14 03:35 PM

I'm surprised we are even on the list,let alone ranked at 20.

Herr-Berbunch 04-30-14 04:40 PM

I'm amazed the UK has only four fewer serviceable airfields than France. :o

mapuc 04-30-14 04:45 PM

I toke a close look at my homecountry Sweden and was looking at Logistical

serviceable airports 231. Don't know what they mean by that

Now in peace time we have only a few military airport in action and in wartime we have hundreds if not thousands.

Markus

Betonov 04-30-14 05:03 PM

We're on the list :rotfl2:

Tribesman 04-30-14 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2202497)
We're on the list :rotfl2:

We're not:yeah:

CCIP 05-01-14 12:03 AM

Very neat! :up:

And as for Israel etc., I think it's only the obvious - it's not the firepower, it's how you use it (and against what). In Israel's case, you have to consider who they're fighting. Their traditional enemies all rank well below them, with the exception of Egypt - though many would argue that if Israel and Egypt were to have a full-blown war today, it might not end that well for the Israelis. Even Lebanon in 2006 proved more than they could effectively crack. Even then, of course, they've stood up to some pretty overwhelming odds, but try to picture Israel going up against one of the top powers in the list in an all-out prolonged war, and yeah... doesn't look so good, does it.

I think Turkey, Japan and South Korea are the most interesting three in the top 10. People often underestimate just how large and capable those countries' militaries are.

Another observation is about the role of military in the politics of Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan. Their political fortunes seem to come and go, but there's little wonder those three countries seem to flip-flop between military dictatorships and periods when they're pushed out of power but stay firmly in the background. Their military bureaucracies are really deeply ingrained, even despite the massive social instability.

Another observation is the chest-puffing of Iran and North Korea. Look where they are compared to the Ukraine, and look at how well Ukraine is able to deal with with even so much as a threat from a first-rate power, even where they are not isolated internationally. Ouch. Even without involvement of first-rate powers, it's interesting to see just how poorly those two "rogue states" fare against their regional opponents (Japan and South Korea in DPRK's case, Israel and Saudi Arabia and arguably Turkey in Iran's).

Betonov 05-01-14 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 2202504)
We're not:yeah:

Buahahahahhahaahahahaha :haha:

Good for you I guess. Less means less maintenance, less money wasted.

TarJak 05-01-14 03:33 AM

The fact that Israel has been regularly using its defence force in active defence of I rs territory is one reason they are so effective.

Skybird 05-01-14 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2202582)
Buahahahahhahaahahahaha :haha:

Good for you I guess. Less means less maintenance, less money wasted.

Just curious. Less "wasting" states not maintaining defences, are less capable in defending. In case they suddenly need defence because of a war - what do you suggest then? Others bailing them out?

Jimbuna 05-01-14 05:33 AM

I've noticed nuclear capability is not taken into account but do wonder how much that relates to power projection.

Skybird 05-01-14 05:51 AM

It prevents an enemy from projecting his power.

Jimbuna 05-01-14 06:05 AM

So does it have an alternate bearing on the ranking position?

Betonov 05-01-14 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2202617)
Just curious. Less "wasting" states not maintaining defences, are less capable in defending. In case they suddenly need defence because of a war - what do you suggest then? Others bailing them out?

They have a brigade of highly skilled Celtic ninjas, that will assassinate any enemy leaders bringing a war to a sudden and bloodless halt.


Waste in the Slovene army. We are a country that's small, mountanes and more than half forested. And we are investing in open warfare NATO doctrine equipment like armored transporters and guns that are excellent in dry climates but will jam the first time a soldier crosses a creek.
If there's a war here the only doctrine with an army this small is let the country fall and head for the hills. And then slaughter them with guerilla tactics like partisans did in WWII. You blow up one railroad bridge and you cripple an entire corridor for days.

Skybird 05-01-14 07:00 AM

Since when are there Celts in Slowenia...? :06:

Militia or guerilla forces like in Switzerland still needs a certain amount of funding and preparation. Else the first guerilla counterattack will be that guerilla's last counterattack as well.


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