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mapuc 04-11-14 06:46 PM

What type of fighter jets should we choose ?
 
Denmark are about to make a decision on their next generation of Fighter Jets to the Danish Airforce.

The backbone in the Danish airforce F-16 has served Denmark since the late 70s and now it's time to send this aircraft at the museum. Therefore, Denmark needs a new fighter jets to replace it.

Denmark has selected four candidates. they are:

Boeing F/A-18F Super Hornet one or two-seat, do not know which.

Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II one or two-seat do not know which.

Saab JAS 39 Gripen E / F (Next Generation) same here

Eurofighter Typhoon

All of the above aircraft has its advantages and disadvantage.

Well I do not have to be the one to choose. I have chosen my favorite aircraft F/A-18.

So what planes do you think Denmark should choose?

Markus

Mittelwaechter 04-11-14 07:40 PM

A European one of course.

Make a compensation deal. You're digging a tunnel to Sweden iirc. They will come for booze I guess.
Charge them with a fee and they'll pay the Gripens for you. :)

TarJak 04-11-14 07:45 PM

ones with big guns.

And lazers!

pew pew!:ping:

Skybird 04-11-14 08:36 PM

For Denmark, the Gripen sounds ideal in ability and costs. However, squeeze a good deal out of the Swedes, the plane is not the newest anymore.

F-35 and Eurofighters are too expensive for what they offer. The Superhornet also would be a good choice, but the Gripen probably can be had cheaper. However, for long range operations over water, the Hornet might be better than the Gripen, I'm not sure: longer legs, or am I mistaken? Thinking about the Faroer Islands.

Or forget fighters completely, and go for drones. Its only a question of time until drones no longer just maverick ground targets, but start shooting stuff out of the sky as well.

krashkart 04-11-14 11:10 PM

I highly recommend the F-35. Somebody's got to help us pay for that flying metal coprolite. :03::D

TarJak 04-11-14 11:13 PM

OK being serious. They are all too expensive and don't work properly for what you need. Drones is the way to go. Cheaper, less risk to losing pilots yadda yadda.

Admiral Halsey 04-11-14 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 2196668)
OK being serious. They are all too expensive and don't work properly for what you need. Drones is the way to go. Cheaper, less risk to losing pilots yadda yadda.

You want a cheap and proven fighter? Then start building these





http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...3/P-51-361.jpg

krashkart 04-12-14 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey (Post 2196670)
You want a cheap and proven fighter? Then start building these





http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...3/P-51-361.jpg

Nostalgia is good and all, but... :)

Admiral Halsey 04-12-14 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by krashkart (Post 2196677)
Nostalgia is good and all, but... :)

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True it may not be as fast as modern jets but how well could a heat seeking missile track them? After all its got no jet exhaust

Herr-Berbunch 04-12-14 01:35 AM

Anything but F-35, prove to the world that Denmark isn't as gullible as the rest of us.

Oberon 04-12-14 06:48 AM

Go with what we should have, the Hornet. It's cheaper, but still a very potent weapon. The Eurofighter is a good bird, but too expensive for what you need, and the less said about the F35 the better. The Gripen is good though, and you might be able to haggle the price down with the Swedes, but ultimately the F-18E/F is a tried and tested bird, and probably the best bang per buck out of the four.

Of course, drones are the next big thing, so getting ahead of the curve might pay off but then you've got to consider the cut back in staffing that drones would represent and factor that into Denmarks unemployment rate, so politically it makes more sense to buy manned aircraft than to go drone...at this time.

Jimbuna 04-12-14 07:21 AM

Any of them at the right price apart from the F35.

Wolferz 04-12-14 08:20 AM

How about a squadron of those Iranian stealth fighters?
All you'll need to do is learn the catch phrases for weapon deployment.

"Allah hu Akbar!" WOOSH!...... BOOM!:O:
Great yuyulation!

Jimbuna 04-12-14 09:54 AM

http://s29.postimg.org/k1eocyivb/image.jpg

Wolferz 04-12-14 10:45 AM

^^
Wonder Woman called. Need I say more?:O:

Jimbuna 04-12-14 12:14 PM

http://s21.postimg.org/r9pmli4nb/image.jpg

Wolferz 04-12-14 12:38 PM

OMG!!!
You Basum!!!:dead:
My EYES My EYES!!!!

mapuc 04-12-14 12:47 PM

Thank you for your reply, even the funny ones they gave me a good laugh.

As I said, it's best it isn't me who's going to make this decision.

Day before yesterday DoD program office sends out "Request for Binding Information"
to the four participating manufacturers
The decision will be made medio 2015 and expected arrival of first fighter plane about 2020.

Have been reading many of the comment's on the Danish homepage "Nytkampfly.dk" = new combat aircraft

Many say that the F-35 is so expensive Denmark wouldn't have enough money to have them. Advanced fighter indeed, but to expensive.



Markus

kraznyi_oktjabr 04-12-14 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2196594)
Denmark are about to make a decision on their next generation of Fighter Jets to the Danish Airforce.

The backbone in the Danish airforce F-16 has served Denmark since the late 70s and now it's time to send this aircraft at the museum. Therefore, Denmark needs a new fighter jets to replace it.

Nothing wrong in F-16. I would have considered modern variant (F-16E/F Block 60 or later) as good (relatively) low cost alternative option. As you have already decided thats not good for you...

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2196594)
Boeing F/A-18F Super Hornet one or two-seat, do not know which.

This my favourite. I would buy combination of single seat F/A-18Es and two seat F/A-18Fs. Single seaters would be used for air superiority etc. missions while two seaters would handle strike missions or ofcourse you could buy all single or two seater fleet aswell. Advantage of this aircraft is that you could order F/A-18Fs with Growler wiring preinstalled as Australians did. This would allow upgrading some airframes to EA-18G Growler electronic warfare aircraft when needed/funds are available.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2196594)
Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II one or two-seat do not know which.

There are three variants available of which none has two seats. These are:
F-35A Air Force CTOL variant
F-35B Marine's STOVL variant and
F-35C Navy's CATOBAR variant
Although F-35 may eventually become great fighter its simply far too expensive. What will you do with aircraft you can't afford to lose?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2196594)
Saab JAS 39 Gripen E / F (Next Generation) same here

Second best option in my opinion. Affordable aircraft with reasonable performance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2196594)
Eurofighter Typhoon

Good aircraft but a bit pricy. If you decide you really need two engine aircraft then this is good option.

Quote:

Originally Posted by krashkart (Post 2196667)
I highly recommend the F-35. Somebody's got to help us pay for that flying metal coprolite. :03::D

Oh the joys of corporate wellf... ehh investments to sustain industrial base! :D

Wolferz 04-12-14 06:38 PM

America's military industrial complex thanks you for your support.:up:

Free floor mats with every unit purchased.:yep:


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