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Onkel Neal 03-19-13 09:27 PM

Windows - Delayed Write Failed
 
Ok, gurus: advise me.

My PC has been a little slower lately, and just this week, been getting a lot of Windows - Delayed Write Failed messages and blue screen lockups. Does that sound like a failing hard drive? Can I reinstalled Windows on the drive and not lose any files? I'm guessing no, because a new install would wipe out all the program settings at the least. What's the best approach? Should I transfer all the important stuff to an external HD, then replace the ailing HD (if it is indeed ailing...) with a new HD and reinstall Windows, then all my files?

I did this at least once before, where I added a new HD, made it the master, then slaved the old HD--I could still access the files and programs on the old one.

Feuer Frei! 03-20-13 01:42 AM

Hi Neal
do you have any external hard drives hooked up when you get the messages?
Thing is, external hard drives that use caching will spit out those messages.
Delayed write failed messages are commonly associated with the following:
issues with a device driver (moreso on Win XP SP2), cabling problems(faulty or broken), media errors(drive failures), you might want to look into checking your hdd with this link: http://www.grc.com/intro.htm, some bios settings, usb controller issues, memory issues(ram) and a few other things.

You can see how write-caching is handled for a particular volume by right-clicking on the icon for the drive in the "Disk drives" subtree of the Device Manager and selecting the Policies tabs. The options typically are "Optimize for quick removal" (everything is written to the drive immediately) and "Optimize for performance" (writes are cached).

The first option lets you quickly disconnect drives -- for instance, hot-pluggable USB "pen" drives -- without first disconnecting them via the Safely Remove Hardware icon in the system tray.

Trouble is, with that sort of error message, it could be a number of things, not just 1 or 2. Makes it hard and tedious to locate the trouble-maker.

Have a play-around with that Neal, let us know how you go.

CaptainHaplo 03-20-13 06:00 PM

Feuer is dead on about the write caching problems with USB. Eject any usb drives, reboot and run a while - see what happens with them out.

Also - if your still having issues after that - the easiest way to do things would be using imaging. Either create - or mirror the existing drive. That way if the one dies, you unplug it, swap it with the mirror and away you go.

Onkel Neal 03-21-13 03:09 PM

Ok, thanks. Yes, I have 2 USB external drives, I will shut those down and wait to see how it goes.

GT182 03-21-13 09:49 PM

Neal, what make are your HDDs?

Seagate has a free program that will clone a drive to another Saves doing an OS reinstall and everything is copied over to the new HDD. . You can then just plug it in and continue on from there. That's one reason I only use Seagate, the other is their pretty dependable.

Onkel Neal 05-02-13 06:52 AM

My HD is SCSI WDC_WD50
Whatever that is :)

Well, it went fine for a week, but now it's so bad I am running in Safe Mode. :dead:

I think it may have something to do with my g cards or connection cables. For about 4 months there has been a horizontal line on the monitor. And now the blue screen of death says nv4_disp is stuck in an infinite loop!

I guess I will have to check the drivers, cables, and clean the innerds, wish me luck.

Herr-Berbunch 05-02-13 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 2050140)
And now the blue screen of death says nv4_disp is stuck in an infinite loop!

Uninstall and reinstall your graphics drivers. :up:

McBeck 05-02-13 08:50 AM

Failing PSU?
Drivers shouldnt make things worse and worse...

Onkel Neal 05-02-13 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch (Post 2050174)
Uninstall and reinstall your graphics drivers. :up:


Tried updating the driver, no buenos.

Onkel Neal 05-02-13 10:17 PM

Ok, hardware gurus: Let's say I want to replace both of my aging GeForce 9800GT cards to fix this problem. What cards should I get? I want something that will plug right in and work, and I stopped keeping track of video card types with PCI (or SLIMM?). I want something a step above the stock cards, not 5 grades above. Suggestions?:shucks:

Onkel Neal 05-03-13 07:32 AM

How do I find the best/latest nvidia drivers for the GeForce 9800GT cards? I found some, not sure if they are what I should be using.

Why the hell can't hardware update themselves?:doh:

Herr-Berbunch 05-03-13 07:35 AM

The lastest driver for your card(s), with Win XP 32-bit is http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp-3...ql-driver.html

Herr-Berbunch 05-03-13 07:47 AM

As for the replacement cards, I'd have a budget in mind and see what you can get for it - check out hwcompare.com to roughly compare to your 7800GT. Also with a newer card you may need a new PSU. If it's not one thing it's another with PCs :cry:

Onkel Neal 05-03-13 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch (Post 2050671)
As for the replacement cards, I'd have a budget in mind and see what you can get for it - check out hwcompare.com to roughly compare to your 7800GT. Also with a newer card you may need a new PSU. If it's not one thing it's another with PCs :cry:


?? I have GeForce 9800GT cards.

Herr-Berbunch 05-04-13 02:10 AM

I knew that, I was just seeing if you were paying attention. Same driver though.

Onkel Neal 05-04-13 09:30 PM

No go. I guess I need to get another 9800GT and swap out until I see which one is bad.

HunterICX 05-05-13 07:53 AM

Why not use the ones you have now and run the system with just one 9800 and see which one causes the BSOD.

HunterICX

Onkel Neal 05-05-13 08:42 AM

I can run with just one card? Ok.

HB, you were going to suggest a replacement card? Will this work?

Got a new internal HD, will begin the resurrection this morning.....

HunterICX 05-05-13 09:10 AM

Yes your system will work fine with just one card, just because the cards supports SLI doesn't mean you have to run 2 cards at the same time.

Actually it's better to run just one card, the trouble and the performance which it may, may not or is very little isn't worth it. (unless you know a great deal about how to set it up, know and play the games that take benefit from it)
Read : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalabl...erface#Caveats

So I would suggest to hold of on that replacement card and see how your system runs running just one 9800GT.

HunterICX

Onkel Neal 05-05-13 10:44 AM

I love you, man!:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

I pulled the card that had the video plug, moved the other down to that slot, and turned it on. PC booted up, no crazy distortion (that horizontal line is still there.... cable or monitor?). Driver seems to be recent, 3/14/13. 6.14.13.1422 (why can't they name these things sanely?

I am going to see how this works for a while, and may get a new SSD HD
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Exclus.../dp/B00B2X312S

then add it as the primary and move the old one to slave.


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