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Jimbuna 03-09-13 11:10 AM

Emergency hearing over Abu Qatada
 
Hopefully this piece of (insert your own word here) will have few days left in the UK. His legal aid bills have already topped half a million and heaven only knows how much he and his family have cost the British tax payer in benefit payments.

I must admit to having had a good laugh at one of his bail conditions:

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Needs approval to take a job or enrol on a course
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21727209

Oberon 03-09-13 11:34 AM

Oh great, Abu Qatada at the job center...Allah help us all! :har:

Jimbuna 03-09-13 11:51 AM

The rent bill we are paying for his house is nearly £2000 per month :o

BossMark 03-10-13 04:42 AM

Lets hope that useless cow of a home secretary gets it right this time with no &^&**&**% ups

Tribesman 03-10-13 05:32 AM

Stop the circus and just do what should have been done 10 years ago.
Put the idiot on trial in your country.

eddie 03-10-13 01:15 PM

The UK has their own nutjob to deal with, and we have ours! At least we have him in court though.

http://news.msn.com/us/bin-laden-spo...guilty-to-plot

Jimbuna 03-10-13 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie (Post 2023317)
The UK has their own nutjob to deal with, and we have ours! At least we have him in court though.

http://news.msn.com/us/bin-laden-spo...guilty-to-plot

Nice one...if it were my decision I's deport hom and pay the EU or whoever the paltry fine that would be levied...gotta be cheaper than keeping him and his family over here on benefits.

eddie 03-10-13 02:12 PM

Why is it so hard to deport him Jim?

Jimbuna 03-10-13 02:17 PM

His lawyers claim the Jordanian government will use evidence gained as a result of torture to convict him.

They also claim he will be at risk of torture himself despite undertaking to the contrary from the Jordanians.

As a result the EU court of human rights overruled our own high courts decision to allow him to be extradited.

Something along those lines anyway.

eddie 03-10-13 02:40 PM

That really stinks that a court in the EU can over rule the UK's highest court!!!:nope:

Jimbuna 03-10-13 03:34 PM

That is precisely why a number of Brits (growing daily) are all for pulling out of the EU.

Betonov 03-10-13 03:51 PM

Like the EU has the nerves to do anything after you flip the bird and deport him anyway.
You're the UK. Too big a dog to be on a tight leash

Jimbuna 03-10-13 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2023407)
Like the EU has the nerves to do anything after you flip the bird and deport him anyway.
You're the UK. Too big a dog to be on a tight leash

Thank you and yes I certainly agree....the Italians deported someone a few years back to Africa iirc and the fine was a paltry £100k or so...well worth it to get rid of a financial leech from the system.

Tribesman 03-10-13 04:17 PM

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Something along those lines anyway.
Was it along the lines of the EU court saying the British court hadn't followed British law?:hmmm:

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That really stinks that a court in the EU can over rule the UK's highest court!!!:nope:
It stinks that the past two governments have made a mess of it by breaking their own laws.
If the British courts had a better track record and less of a history of dodgy political interference in cases then you would have a point about the extra layer of oversight.

STEED 03-10-13 04:53 PM

It would have been far less wast of money if he slipped over a bar of soap into a very deep hole and promptly filled in with cement. :shifty:

Skybird 03-10-13 06:56 PM

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the EU court of human rights

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Tribesman 03-11-13 02:42 AM

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Dan D 03-12-13 03:26 AM

Mindless rant.

(copy and past from an older post):

You are confusing the European Court of Human Rights with the European Court of Justice!

WTH has the EU to do with the Abu Qatada case?

The European Court of Human Rights (Strassbourg) was established under the European Convention on Human Rights of 1950 as a consequence of WW II on initiative by Britain. The convention is adopted by the so-called Council of Europe. The Council of Europe is distinct from the EU which has 27 member states and consists of 47 member states , such as Russia, Ukraine and Turkey. Russia e.g. is not a member of the EU, right?

Some EU member states are members of the Council of Europe but not all members of the Council of Europe are EU members.

The European Court of Justice (Luxembourg City) is an EU institution.

The European Court of Justice does not deal with Criminal law cases because Criminal law belongs to the national law systems and not to the EU law system, simple as that. There is no EU criminal law.

So you could do all you want, leave the EU,arrest the EU representatives and the EU court's judges and even shoot them, this is pointless in the context of the Abu Quatada case.

The European Court of Human Rights would still be there to make decisions that are binding because your country is a member of the Council of Europe and signed the European Charta of Human Rights.

You would have to leave the Council of Europe instead! (no EU institution)
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EU, you don't like it. I think I understood that. But why oh why?

Takeda Shingen 03-12-13 09:41 AM

In before yet another anarcho-capitalist rant.

Tribesman 03-12-13 11:18 AM

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EU, you don't like it. I think I understood that. But why oh why?
Why oh why indeed?:03:
This current appeal just happens to be the British government going to British courts to try and overturn a decision which was made in British courts by British judges in accordance with British law.
At this stage it not only has nothing to do with the EU, it has nothing to do with the European court of human rights either.


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