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Gerald 10-20-12 08:07 PM

A World of Harm for Women
 
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If Mitt Romney and his vice-presidential running mate, Representative Paul Ryan, were to win next month’s election, the harm to women’s reproductive rights would extend far beyond the borders of the United States.
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In this country, they would support the recriminalization of abortion with the overturning of Roe v. Wade, and they would limit access to contraception and other services. But they have also promised to promote policies abroad that would affect millions of women in the world’s poorest countries, where lack of access to contraception, prenatal care and competent help at childbirth often results in serious illness and thousands of deaths yearly. And the wreckage would begin on Day 1 of a Romney administration.
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Mr. Romney has pledged that, on his first day in the White House, he would reinstate the “global gag rule,” the odious restriction that has been used to deny federal money for family-planning work abroad to any organization that provided information, advice, referrals or services for legal abortion or supported the legalization of abortion, even using its own money.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/20/op...for-women.html


Note: October 19, 2012

AVGWarhawk 10-20-12 08:20 PM

Opinion column. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Right or wrong.

Oberon 10-20-12 08:23 PM

Needs more binders.

Skybird 10-20-12 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1950649)
Opinion column. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Right or wrong.

What he has indeed announced he would do, is no opinion, but now historic fact you can quote from the archives. Question is whether or not there are powers fighting him from making his declared plans true.

AVGWarhawk 10-20-12 09:22 PM

I'm lazy. Please site where Willard would do these things.

Takeda Shingen 10-20-12 09:42 PM

Romney on Roe v Wade:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...tive-audience/

Romney on global gag rule, aka Mexico City Policy:

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/politic...raws-criticism

It's always about abortion with the neocons. They claim otherwise but it is always about social issues.

CaptainMattJ. 10-20-12 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1950667)
I'm lazy. Please site where Willard would do these things.

not to be rude, but had you been following any of his plans on the critical issues youd wouldnt need to ask that question, as he and the republican party (who honestly make romney a puppet, turning him from his more moderate stance years ago to the ideologies the republican party shares today) have said numerous times that they want to make any abortion illegal and cut any and all funding to planned parenthood and many organizations that promote contraception in people who dont want and cant care for children, especially teens.

August 10-21-12 12:05 AM

Gerald if you keep posting those opinion pieces you should change your Subsim Newsman designation to "Subsim political shill"...:yep:

Betonov 10-21-12 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1950680)
Gerald if you keep posting those opinion pieces you should change your Subsim Newsman designation to "Subsim political shill"...:yep:

So if in your mind he's a (lefty) political shill, then that makes you a righty political shill :O:

Let him post those ''opinions''. It's his right to do so.
And one more thing, why don't you post some republican opinions if you think Vendor is biased, to even out the playing field

kraznyi_oktjabr 10-21-12 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 1950687)
So if in your mind he's a (lefty) political shill, then that makes you a righty political shill :O:

Let him post those ''opinions''. It's his right to do so.
And one more thing, why don't you post some republican opinions if you think Vendor is biased, to even out the playing field

:agree:

AVGWarhawk 10-21-12 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ. (Post 1950675)
not to be rude, but had you been following any of his plans on the critical issues youd wouldnt need to ask that question, as he and the republican party (who honestly make romney a puppet, turning him from his more moderate stance years ago to the ideologies the republican party shares today) have said numerous times that they want to make any abortion illegal and cut any and all funding to planned parenthood and many organizations that promote contraception in people who dont want and cant care for children, especially teens.

So don't be rude. Understand abortion is not a critical issue for me. Roe v Wade discussions and what any president or would be president has been used fordecades as a tool. In the sense that a candidate will spew out abolishing to energize his base to obtain support and nomination. Others use this piece of legislation to energize opposition to turn support away from a candidate. There is really nothing different here from decades past with the same questions, answers, themes and ideology. What a great time to throw out a article like this when the women's votes(polls) appear to be swinging Willard's way. See this article for what it is. Read what Take posted. Some issues are paramount to some where others are not. Abortion, getting rubbers to kids and making sure women have day after pills is not in the forefront of my concerns.

u crank 10-21-12 06:08 AM

Smoke and mirrors. In the political game ears need to be tickled. Promises need to be made. It's nothing new. And it won't happen. Social policies, abortion, same sex marriage, etc., never go backwards. People just wouldn't stand for it. That's progress I guess.

Gerald 10-21-12 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1950680)
Gerald if you keep posting those opinion pieces you should change your Subsim Newsman designation to "Subsim political shill"...:yep:

The title Subsim Newsman, as Neal handed out for a "decent" time to go back, is a good title, since it refers to news updates, and by chance it will with the political moves, as well as it is about space or another in our everyday life, and with it, I would say that my posts are not intended to profess political color if there is one around here, which I think is, for example, leftists ..... our comitte built on independence.

August 10-21-12 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 1950687)
So if in your mind he's a (lefty) political shill

No I do not, I just think he is has a problem differentiating between news and propaganda. Partisan opinion is not news.

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And one more thing, why don't you post some republican opinions if you think Vendor is biased, to even out the playing field
I post my opinions all the time. I just don't pretend that they are "news". He claims to be a "SubSim Newsman", I do not. See the difference?

August 10-21-12 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1950750)
The title Subsim Newsman, as Neal handed out for a "decent" time to go back, is a good title, since it refers to news updates, and by chance it will with the political moves, as well as it is about space or another in our everyday life, and with it, I would say that my posts are not intended to profess political color if there is one around here, which I think is, for example, leftists ..... our comitte built on independence.

See my preceding post. You can't truthfully claim to be a newsman if you post propaganda Gerald.

Gerald 10-21-12 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1950830)
See my preceding post. You can't truthfully claim to be a newsman if you post propaganda Gerald.

Who said I do not know the difference between propaganda and news?,the entry is made when there is an opinion of,the newspaper.

August 10-21-12 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1950840)
Who said I do not know the difference between propaganda and news?,the entry is made when there is an opinion of,the newspaper.

Opinion is just that, opinion. It is not news.

gimpy117 10-21-12 11:18 PM

Republicans complain about people on welfare having more welfare babies (actually we really all do) ....

....and then remove access to contraception

:hmmm:


but to me the moral standpoint of: I don't agree with it, so why do i need to pay for it?

well in that case can I not pay any of the debt for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars?

August 10-22-12 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117 (Post 1951076)
....and then remove access to contraception

Can you show where the Republicans have removed access to contraception?
There's a big difference between removing access and not being willing to pay for it.

gimpy117 10-22-12 08:27 AM

not paying for it is pretty much removing access to the under privileged.


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