Absentee ballot for the President of the United States
 

All are welcome to vote: Note only two canidates, no write in votes.

This only counts for subsim members anyway, no national polls will report us lol

Democratic party canidate: Barack H. Obama

Republican canidate: Mitt Romney

If the polling trends keep going the way they have been and he doesn't flub the last debate I think Romney is going to win.

I still don't think Mitt has quite got what it takes, but it's certainly going to be close. If anything, for the GOPs sake I hope he fails, they need a shake-up and a revaluation to survive the 21st century.

Still, time will tell...it's what...less than three weeks now?

I have no idea, nor would I care to guess. I only wondered why you used Obama's full name (with middle initial) but not Willard M. Romney's.

Right Wing, Tea Party bias thing. :O:

Really? I thought maybe he didn't know. :D

:D Good ole Willard ... how could I ever forget a name like that? :hmmm:

It is tough to upset an incumbent.

To unseat an incumbent president two factors have to be present.

1. The citizens must be significantly displeased with the incumbent

and

2. The challenger must be able to offer something significantly better.

Lacking these two factors, the incumbent usually wins.

This is what happened in 2004.

The first factor was present. President Bush had very low approval rates. however, Kerry and the Democrats failed to demonstrate that Kerry would be a significant improvement over Bush. The result is that the "tie" goes to the incumbent.

Kerry could not run on the "I am not Bush" platform. Romney wont be able to win on the "I am not Obama" platform either. Unfortunately, Romney's platform relies a lot on him not being Obama.

I think Obama will win, but it will be close. And once again, Obama will win because the RNC failed to offer us a viable candidate.

I mean really? The RNC is telling me that Romney is the best of the best of the best of the Republican Party? Really?

I know I will be voting against a candidate instead of voting for a candidate and frankly I am sick of that. :nope:

Election boycot from me. Turnout drops slightly, therefore.

Not a manual nullification of my ballot, which would help to keep the turnout up, but a refusal to vote at all.

Noticed this ad above the poll: Donate $5.00 to the Romney campaign

I plan on voting for Obama, but my wife says she's voting for Romney. It has been somewhat a fuss, as I have told her that she can't, but she says she will anyway. I told her since we will void each other out, we should just stay at home.

I think from most perspectives outside the US, even the thought that Romney would win seems bizarre at this point.

By the way Skybird, my understanding this poll isn't "who you'd vote for" but "who you think will win". If it was the former, then I would also abstain.

Cant afford 4 more years of this.

No kidding, we should never have wasted all those billions on Iraq.

And who put us there.


Oh that's right.

I corrected this for you.

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If CCIP is correct and I misunderstood the poll and it is about what candidate would win, I would say the American people will lose either way.

You told her she can't? What century are you living in? :dead:

Yea, but she also told me some things she won't do either. Seems there is a connection between me saying she can't and her love making abilities.

Don't worry, I'm like most men, controlled by a female.:salute:

:haha: Ok I got it


I'm interested in what you think the GOP should transform itself into to survive. (not being sarcastic here, really). I don't think the "socio-economic" landscape of the U.S.A. will support a real conservative any more. As it is, the Republicans have to adopt the religious voters to have any chance of winning a democratic vote against the growing hordes of entitlement voters. And it won't get any better from here. If the Republicans adapt, it will be to become a different variation of Democrats, I imagine.

How about another 24 years? Can you really imagine people in this country accepting personal responsibility when all they have to do is vote in Democrats? And this didn't start with Obama. It's been happening for some time.

I think the future is RINO, the more radical right wingers need to be culled and the parties spin machine needs to be overhauled to present a more positive image. Both parties, and I'm including the Dems in this as well, need to take a more centralist approach, and cut the partisanship and brinkmanship. There needs to be a figurehead on both parties that is willing to work with each other to reconnect with the people, and put aside the more petty differences.
When people look up and they see a bunch of squabbling rich men playing chicken with the economy, it doesn't inspire confidence in the system, which in turn doesn't inspire confidence in the political future and encourages extremism.
They need to disassociate themselves with people like Glenn Beck, and organisations Fox News, which just put the average person off with their rhetoric, and lose the Tea Party, which will probably take over the role of the party of the deep right.

Now, this is just a European point of view, and my view of what the Republican party is could be disjointed by a lack of understanding of the American viewpoint, but when I hear traditionally Conservative voters say that they don't have much confidence in Romney, or McCain, or that Sarah Palin confuses them and worries them, then I think that it has lost touch with the less radical of its powerbase, which has greater numbers than the radicals and which could help it get into power if it would just reform itself a bit and stop giving perfect ammunition to its critics.

That's my view anyway, what do you think?