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Gerald 09-18-12 10:07 AM
Romney: Palestinians do not want peace
 
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A video clip emerges showing the Republican US presidential candidate, Mitt Romney, saying that Palestinians have no interest in peace with Israel.

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A secret recording of US Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney has been released in which he appears to condemn millions of Americans who cannot provide for themselves.

The recording, made in May at a Florida fund raising dinner, was released on the internet by the Mother Jones website which has a liberal perspective on US politics.

After it became public Mr Romney organised a press briefing in which he described his remarks as "inelegant" but he did not retract the points he had made.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19634262

http://youtu.be/ukhFBJgrZxM

Note: 18 September 2012 Last updated at 14:08 GMT

Takeda Shingen 09-18-12 10:11 AM
Uh, where's the part about the Palestinians? He never mentions them.

Gerald 09-18-12 10:15 AM
:hmmm: bad link?

Takeda Shingen 09-18-12 10:15 AM
Well, it's not in the video, the article, or the expanded article that it links to.

mookiemookie 09-18-12 10:20 AM
Mr. Romney would do better than to disparage one of his larger voting blocs if he wants to have a chance in this race.

Gerald 09-18-12 10:23 AM
The lack of relevant things and it is not true in the context,

http://youtu.be/ukhFBJgrZxM

Takeda Shingen 09-18-12 10:27 AM
There you go. Without that, your headline and your article don't match.

Gerald 09-18-12 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1935828)
There you go. Without that, your headline and your article don't match.
:salute:

Madox58 09-18-12 10:34 AM
Are there any instructions as to how to get into the 47% that don't pay taxes?
:hmmm:

Jimbuna 09-18-12 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1935833)
Are there any instructions as to how to get into the 47% that don't pay taxes?
:hmmm:
Retire and move to Mexico :)

Armistead 09-18-12 11:02 AM
Instead of giving the Jews Palestine, we should've split a piece of Germany. The Christian concept that the Jews are some special people of God, that if you go against them, God will curse your nation, causes a bias in the West towards the situation.

Madox58 09-18-12 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1935848)
Retire and move to Mexico :)
May as well.
All the poeple down there are moving up here so it should be pretty empty by now.
:hmmm:

Penguin 09-18-12 11:09 AM
Ahhh, good ole dualistic worldview. Gotta love Romney! That's exactly what the US and everyone needs: easy answers to complex questions. :yeah:

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Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1935833)
Are there any instructions as to how to get into the 47% that don't pay taxes?
:hmmm:
Just ask Mitt - he knows some pretty good loopholes to avoid being taxed...

I believe you will find not more than a handfull Americans who don't pay taxes: you gotta be self-sufficient, but own no property, no car. You have to buy everything from the black market or acquire anything through bartering. Not even sure about the latter: in Germany "non-cash benefits" also get taxed - the friendly IRS probably has a similar law in their drawer.

Jimbuna 09-18-12 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1935862)
May as well.
All the poeple down there are moving up here so it should be pretty empty by now.
:hmmm:

Just been wondering, are lottery wins taxable over in the US?

Armistead 09-18-12 11:19 AM
I have a friend that moved to Mexico in 07. He was a commerical realtor and web designer. When the economy went, so did his business, etc. His model wife left, lost everything. I think the IRS may have been after him as well. He lives very well in Mexico off $1,200 a month. He finally started a website for Americans listing all the Brothels in Mexico, names of good call girls, etc...I think now he is a pimp so to speak....and getting rich.

August 09-18-12 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1935866)
Just ask Mitt - he knows some pretty good loopholes to avoid being taxed...

I believe you will find not more than a handfull Americans who don't pay taxes: you gotta be self-sufficient, but own no property, no car. You have to buy everything from the black market or acquire anything through bartering. Not even sure about the latter: in Germany "non-cash benefits" also get taxed - the friendly IRS probably has a similar law in their drawer.
I believe he was talking about income taxes.

Skybird 09-18-12 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 1935858)
Instead of giving the Jews Palestine, we should've split a piece of Germany. The Christian concept that the Jews are some special people of God, that if you go against them, God will curse your nation, causes a bias in the West towards the situation.
Öh - pardon...? The Christian concept of Jews was for centuries that the Jews are traitors to God, and scum of the Earth for having betrayed and murdered Jesus. Belittling them and cursing them was papal policy and found entrance into Catholic lithurgy and rite. There were prayers held to ask God to lead them back onto the path of true belief.

The belief that God will curse those opposing the Jews, is a Jewish belief, based on the imagined power of their Thora which they used to carry around when going to another war. And they went into many wars in the past 3000 years.

That the Jews see themselves as the special people being closest to their god, is not surprising. Every theistic religion makes the same claim about itself.

Madox58 09-18-12 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by August (Post 1935879)
I believe he was talking about income taxes.
I believe he was distracted by a string hanging from a rear view mirror.
:o
:har:

Armistead 09-18-12 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1935882)
Öh - pardon...? The Christian concept of Jews was for centuries that the Jews are traitors to God, and scum of the Earth for having betrayed and murdered Jesus. Belittling them and cursing them was papal policy and found entrance into Catholic lithurgy and rite. There were prayers held to ask God to lead them back onto the path of true belief.

The belief that God will curse those opposing the Jews, is a Jewish belief, based on the imagined power of their Thora which they used to carry around when going to another war. And they went into many wars in the past 3000 years.

That the Jews see themselves as the special people being closest to their god, is not surprising. Every theistic religion makes the same claim about itself.
Yes, The Catholic movement for centuries hated the Jews. I'm referring to the Protestant movement the last 50 years or so. Surely you know the majority of the Christian right feel America should give the Jews special favor as the children of God.

Penguin 09-18-12 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by August (Post 1935879)
I believe he was talking about income taxes.
Romeney did, but not Privateer. :03:

What I find the most offensive about Romney's way of thought, is that there is an agreement among the US society to give prisoners shelter, food and medical attention. However if they are a law-abiding, they are suddenly not entitled to this anymore? :88) A very strange way of thinking.


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