JapLance's SH4 Ships
Here are the links to the ships in this thread:
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...HMSBelfast.jpghttp://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...Town_Class.jpg http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...IJN_Yubari.jpghttp://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...diel_Class.jpg http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps747f6371.jpghttp://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps01595240.jpg http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...psa1d3f6ab.jpghttp://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps777d1fe1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/oUbDBtn.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/85VNpAE.jpg ==========Original thread=========== I've been playing with the 3D program to make the CL Yubari, and everything was going well so far, right up until now. I wanted to add a very simple occlusion map (up to now all ships I had done were in SH3 style) so it gave the ship this typical Japanese blueish grey (or greyish blue maybe?) colour. I thought I was doing it well, and in S3D the ship looks the way I wanted http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...ubariS3Dkk.jpg but when I go to the museum to check the ship, she looks like the occlusion map is not there: http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...ubariSH4kk.jpg I've checked the stock game ships, and other than the map, which is much simpler in my ship, I couldn't find what can be wrong. The fact that it shows OK in S3D tells me that I'm close, but I've run out of ideas :hmmm:. Does someone know how to finish this?. I could just paint the texture in SH3 way, but I'd like to do it like a proper SH4 ship. |
have you looked thru the modding info links? there might be so90mething in there that helps you figure it out
check the technical help section here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=155786 and also this could help: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...light=tutorial |
Check that the cfg file in the rosters are pointing to the Occlusion texture.
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The AO map shows up correctly in the S3D, which uses about the same graphic system as the SH4, but not in game?
Is the AO HiRes or a LoRes type? I suppose HiRes. Did check "Use High Resolution textures" in the game's setup? |
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The thing is that I have already used this system before with other ships to add a cammo pattern, and it worked, although I ditched it because I didn't like the result in that particular case. I'm absolutely lost :huh:. |
I finally found the problem. She looks much better now, but it will take me longer than expected to finish the model.
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps383b897b.jpg The problem was that, due to my lazyness, I used a lot of single-side polygons to make certain walls, and then in the .dat file I inverted the order of the materials and put the two-sided one on top so these walls were rendered properly. In S3D that works fine, but in the game seems like it "blocks" (not sure if it is the right word to describe it) the occlusion map. Now I will have to come back to the 3D model and make these parts double-sided. |
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You talk of using double sided components in your ship; have you had problems with a shimmering/flickering effect ingame? I have always had to make SH3/4 ship hulls out of one-sided polygons to avoid that issue. Have you figured out how to prevent it? |
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I have only made one hull from scratch, and did it starting from a cylinder. It was a quite simple ship (a destroyer), and did it that way just to get some experience. I haven't checked any of these ships thoroughly inside the game, only in the museum. |
Hulls are easy to do with Freeship. And you can import the hull into 3dsMax as a Wavfront Obj format since it will save in that format.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/freeship/ |
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But I think that in general it's easier to take an already existing hull and reshape it. |
I still have a lot of tweaking to do with the Yubari (the .zon file mainly), so I dusted off another cruiser I had in the yard and applied the same treatment as the Yubari:
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...elfast1943.jpg Now ships look so muck better :o |
Hi, 1st time I see a reasonable try of a Belfast model. I like it. Consider to exchange positions aft HA and LA directors (if I remember corectly), the rest looks fine.
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Well, the ships I make are not meant to be 100% like their real life counterparts. I lack the skill in 3D, the patience it takes and the data to do it.
In this case I've used a lot of parts from the Fiji and other stock ships. This gives me a reasonably good-looking ship to use in the game. I used the same approach for the Yubari, and the rest of ships I have waiting in the queue. |
Another one of the ships I had in my hard drive awaiting some more work
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...l_Class-04.jpg http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...l_Class-03.jpg Derived from the original Tribal-class destroyer, and with some parts from other stock British ships. |
Great job. Is there any chance of seeing "HMS Sydney" and her sister ships? Or the "Exeter"? One of my favorite things about Silent Hunter II was that nearly all of the famous Allied cruiser classes were eventually completed by modders. The more cruisers, the merrier.
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Yes I'am also a big cruiser fan, and despite they are not found very often when you patrol in your boat, I love their looks in the WW2 time frame. Everybody loves the battleships and the big guns, but I consider cruisers much sexier. With regard to the Leanders and Mod-Leanders, the frog did an excellent set for SH3, and I think that someone converted them to SH4. Right now I'm finishing a number of ships I had already modeled in 3D but needed that last push that I couldn't understand, and unfortunately the Exeter was not one of them. The Belfast needs tweaking in (I guess) the .zon file. A single torpedo will now sink it, which is a bit weird for a +10000 cruiser. I have to check it. I still need to test Abdiel's durability, but having used the Tribal as a base I think it will behave more realistically to damage. Hopefully someday I will be happy enough with the results to release them :har: |
Here is a link to the HMS Belfast download:
https://mega.co.nz/#!05AmEZjD!cEBEX1...Z14ce1IXhcEAJQ I'm all ears to comments and suggestions. |
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Apologies, I didn't know you had to register to download files. Here is a different link in another server:
https://mega.co.nz/#!05AmEZjD!cEBEX1...Z14ce1IXhcEAJQ I'm not using Mediafire because they delete files :down:. |
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