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mookiemookie 07-27-12 11:46 PM

Florida man kills door-to-door salesman: I’ll kill anybody that steps on my property"
 
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/2...n-my-property/

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A co-worker who witnessed the shooting said Rainey had knocked on Roop***8217;s door, but received no answer. While Rainey was walking down the drive-way, Roop pulled up in his pickup truck and asked why Rainey was at his house. Rainey explained that he was selling steak and seafood. The witness said Roop then pulled out a black handgun and shot Rainey. As Rainey lay on the ground, Roop fired another bullet into the back of his head.
:nope: What is wrong with people? Good god....

And the money quote...

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Roop later told police that he shot Rainey in the head ***8220;for effect***8221; and that he had three no trespassing signs on his property. Roop said he feared for his life.

***8220;I***8217;m not going to give him the chance to do something to me,***8221; he told police. ***8220;I was in fear.***8221;
Yeah, I bet.

kraznyi_oktjabr 07-28-12 04:23 AM

Unbelievable... :nope:

Herr_Pete 07-28-12 04:37 AM

Making guns illegal is starting to sound pretty darn good isn't it.

Skybird 07-28-12 04:41 AM

I cannot help it, but that thread headline caught me by surprise and I burst in laughter. "I kill anybody that steps on my property, hoah!"

Skybird 07-28-12 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr_Pete (Post 1915158)
Making guns illegal is starting to sound pretty darn good isn't it.

And knifes. In my case, do not forget the bow, and the swords.

Damn, even a pencil can be a weapon.

Let'S face it, there is no remedy to nuttiness. As long as nuttiness cannot be extracted out of the head, sh!t will continue to happen.

For example that armed robber on your doorstep, first ringing, and then introducing you to the pointed end of his gun (probably an illegal one).

Tchocky 07-28-12 05:06 AM

If the salesman was also armed this would never have happened.

Oberon 07-28-12 05:11 AM

Personally I think they should arm everyone in America with M-29 Davy Crocketts and then ban MOPP suits from being manufactured in the country. See how weapon crime progresses then...

Morts 07-28-12 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr_Pete (Post 1915158)
Making guns illegal is starting to sound pretty darn good isn't it.

Not really

u crank 07-28-12 06:47 AM

It's very sad and probably for Rainey very bad luck, but this guy was going to kill someone eventually. Just a matter of time. :nope:

em2nought 07-28-12 07:11 AM

Damn anti-gun manchurian candidates. :D

breadcatcher101 07-28-12 07:17 AM

Probably about 75 million Americans own guns.

Yeah, let's ban them because of one incident.

Oberon 07-28-12 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by breadcatcher101 (Post 1915203)
Probably about 75 million Americans own guns.

Yeah, let's ban them because of one incident.

Last data I saw had 257 incidents per day, 81 of them fatal. Some are murders, some are suicides and some are accidents.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people...but the guns certainly do help.

MH 07-28-12 09:45 AM

USA is very high in gun violence statistics.
If guns don't kill people then there are too many nutcases with access to guns.

mapuc 07-28-12 09:55 AM

I hope that one or another prosecutor will take this matter to court.
For me it is no doubt that it is overkill. He has abused the right to defend him self.
His life was NEVER in danger. The correct way to do it, would be to make a civilian arrest.

Another important question which I do not want to ask, because I know that you should never criticize another country's domestic problems

Well I do it anyway

What is wrong with the American mentality?
There are other countries like Canada, where the number of arms per inhabitants is higher than in the U.S., but where the number of the killings and other incidents is much lower, even when you look to the number of inhabitants.

So it must be the American mentality or something else

Markus

Oberon 07-28-12 09:57 AM

It's high, yes, but when you compare it on a per capita basis, then it's not that high. In terms of overall gun crime though America is...fourth, I think, behind South Africa, Colombia and Thailand.

It'll never change though, you try and bring in any form of gun control law and the whole country will riot.

u crank 07-28-12 10:23 AM

Even the slightest hint of tougher gun control starts this.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...-colorado.html

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 1915256)
There are other countries like Canada, where the number of arms per inhabitants is higher than in the U.S., but where the number of the killings and other incidents is much lower, even when you look to the number of inhabitants.
Markus

We have our moments as well I'm afraid. Four killed, twenty three wounded in separate instances in one week in Toronto. Mostly gang related.

I don't see gun control as the answer. Giving a person a permit to carry a gun does not control how he uses it. Refusal of permit simply means getting an illegal gun. There seems to be no solution.

Blood_splat 07-28-12 12:03 PM

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mapuc 07-28-12 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank (Post 1915267)
Even the slightest hint of tougher gun control starts this.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...-colorado.html



We have our moments as well I'm afraid. Four killed, twenty three wounded in separate instances in one week in Toronto. Mostly gang related.

I don't see gun control as the answer. Giving a person a permit to carry a gun does not control how he uses it. Refusal of permit simply means getting an illegal gun. There seems to be no solution.


Same here in Denmark. A couple a days ago a mand shoot his wife and their little girl and thereafter he killed himself. So yes we do also have our gunproblems mostly though it's gang related.

I maintain, however, my wish that a Public Prosecutors would take action against this man. He has exceeded its right to defend his life and his "castle"

Markus

Armistead 07-28-12 12:14 PM

You could never ban guns, just insure that only criminals would have them.
States with gun bans have the highest gun murder ratewith guns. Even if you did a house to house search to get rid of guns, most legal people would hide them and criminals would still get them at ease.

Buddahaid 07-28-12 12:22 PM

The guy is crazy and in no way standing his ground. Even if he could have made that argument the second shot makes it murder.

Sensible gun control laws only work for sensible people. I just read today that a homeless man living in a car and of questionable metal condition, had police confiscate a shotgun from his car two weeks ago. He was just relieved of another shotgun in his car! I seriously doubt that gun was obtained through legal channels but let's pile on more ineffective wishful thinking laws that will have no effect on curbing gun violence.

People argue that there is no need for anyone to own a military style firearm. True enough but there is also no need to own a high powered car because commuters just need to get from point A to point B. How many people die from irresponsible drivers of fast cars each year? One could drive a car onto crowded sidewalks and make mayhem so shouldn't there be background checks and ten day waiting periods for car ownership?

No amount of laws will rid this country of firearms unless we become a totalitarian state which would be far worse than the sad misuses of our rights we live with now.

I will now step off my soap box. :O:


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