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August 03-21-12 11:09 AM

Joe Biden on the bin Laden raid
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1365902.html


Quote:

Vice President Joseph Biden on Monday night upped the ante around the already quite-dramatic assassination of Osama bin Laden.

From the pool report of Biden’s comments during a fundraising event in New Jersey come these quotes.

“You can go back 500 years. You cannot find a more audacious plan. Never knowing for certain. We never had more than a 48 percent probability that he was there.”
Yeah that's right Joe. Jimmy Doolittle has nothing on you guys... :DL

Gargamel 03-21-12 11:22 AM

Mixed on the use of 'assassination'. But what ever.

Doolittle is a good point, but for audacious military plans, this ones up there too.

TLAM Strike 03-21-12 11:32 AM

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“You can go back 500 years. You cannot find a more audacious plan."
500 years seems like such an arbatray number; I'm guessing there was some really amazing operation conducted during the War of the League of Cambrai... :hmmm:

vienna 03-21-12 12:49 PM

I think the 500 year remark was nothing more than typical political hyperbole used by all politicians, sort of like "the greatest thing since sliced bread!"... :DL

Sailor Steve 03-21-12 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 1858462)
I think the 500 year remark was nothing more than typical political hyperbole used by all politicians, sort of like "the greatest thing since sliced bread!"... :DL

And I think everyone here thinks exactly the same thing. :sunny:

mookiemookie 03-21-12 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1858417)
500 years seems like such an arbatray number; I'm guessing there was some really amazing operation conducted during the War of the League of Cambrai... :hmmm:

Ok, I'll admit I had to Google "War of the League of Cambrai."

Oberon 03-21-12 01:00 PM

Let Joe have his moment, they don't let him out very often... :O:

August 03-21-12 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1858417)
500 years seems like such an arbatray number; I'm guessing there was some really amazing operation conducted during the War of the League of Cambrai... :hmmm:

Not to mention during the War of Jenkins Ear. :DL

Osmium Steele 03-21-12 02:35 PM

Hrm, a little place called Son Tay comes to mind. :hmmm:

August 03-21-12 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Osmium Steele (Post 1858554)
Hrm, a little place called Son Tay comes to mind. :hmmm:

Yep, and in reference to Gargamels point about assassination we could also cite the Yamamoto shoot down. Those P-38 pilots had to turn their planes into flying gas cans to reach hundreds of miles behind enemy lines, fight through a strong Zero fighter escort over an enemy held island with no support and and no chance of rescue if they have to ditch or bail.

Gargamel 03-21-12 07:37 PM

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Operation Vengeance began on 18th April 1943, when 18 aircraft led by Major John W. Mitchell, went out to find the plane carrying Yamamoto. At 9.30 am the US pilot, Thomas G. Lamphier, identified Yamamoto's aircraft approaching Kahili Field on Bougainville. Two bursts from his guns hit the target and the aircraft crashed into the jungle.
Pilot is a distant relative of mine.

Skybird 03-21-12 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Gargamel (Post 1858786)
Pilot is a distant relative of mine.

You mean you were raised in a jungle...? :D

simple nuke 03-21-12 08:36 PM

Biden's reaction
 
Looking at the pictures of POTUS courageously watching the live video in the Situation Room, I get this strong feeling that the pizza boxes were photo-shopped out.

Oberon 03-21-12 09:34 PM

I wonder if the SEALs had killed 25 guys in a row with no loss, whether Obama would have used a nuclear strike. :03:

Aramike 03-22-12 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1858405)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1365902.html




Yeah that's right Joe. Jimmy Doolittle has nothing on you guys... :DL

:haha:

Biden's sense of history involves little more than the Secret Service remind him that he's the Vice President, and that it's kinda a big deal, but not really.

vienna 03-22-12 12:20 PM

I not sure, but I think if McCain had won the VP would have said, "Wow, this sure beats Stratego, you betcha!) :D

August 03-22-12 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 1859077)
I not sure, but I think if McCain had one the VP would have said, "Wow, this sure beats Stratego, you betcha!) :D

I think the Dems were very smart to have made 2008 an Obama vs Palin race and the GoP was pretty stupid for allowing them to get away with it.

In their one debate Palin and Biden both made mistakes but i would have thought that Biden, with all his legislative experience, should have wiped the floor with her. As it was she more than held her own and that says more about him than about her.

All I have to say is I hope Obama stays healthy until he leaves office!

vienna 03-22-12 02:18 PM

Just because a person has legislative experience does not necessarily make them charismatic or able in a debate situation as equally someone charismatic is not necessarily good legislative/excutive material...

It's nice to have someone with both substance and charisma, but I'd take awkwardness backed up by substance over charisma backed by vacuity anyday...

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August 03-22-12 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 1859128)
Just because a person has legislative experience does not necessarily make them charismatic or able in a debate situation as equally someone charismatic is not necessarily good legislative/excutive material...

It's nice to have someone with both substance and charisma, but I'd take awkwardness backed up by substance over charisma backed by vacuity anyday...

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Then there is Joe Biden who is a known moron. :DL

vienna 03-22-12 02:55 PM

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Then there is Joe Biden who is a known moron. :DL
Then, what lower-rung descriptor beneath the level of 'moron' is Palin placed on?... :DL

BTW, I was well prepared to vote for McCain, a person I respect and trust until the GOP shot themselves in the foot by running Ms. "I know foreign policy because I can see Russia from my porch"...

Doing that to McCain was a wretched way to treat a person who has given and done so much for this country...

Then, again, perhaps an albatross like Palin is what the GOP leadership considers to be their "bset and brightest"...

Sad way to kill off a once great party... :-?

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