Florida teen detained by TSA for design on her purse
 

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow...221835034.html

This is really one of those "Really??" moments that makes people question the sanity, if any, of the people charged with our security...

:o :rotfl2: :dead: :damn:

Or a bomber jacket.




Looks like I picked the right sig for the month.

The TSA definitely needs some adult oversight. How could anyone consider a leather embossed design of a gun on a purse as a "replica weapon"? :doh:

Really, no on-duty supervisor looked at this and could have made a decision? :nope:.

TSA officers seem to have the authority decide to fist some 6-year old girl if they feel like it but no one at TSA has the authority to look at an embossed design?

The terrorists are still winning folks. :yep:

I think part of the idiocy of the TSA (and other such governmental entities) is the unwillingness to admit they have basically "screwed up". They do something stupid and then, realizing that it makes them look like the east end of a west-facing jackass, they try to mitigate the error by escalating the situation hoping, perhaps, they might stumble on something able to justify their original error. It's the of inability such agencies to cut their losses that makes such situations a major irritation to the victims of such actions and causes embarassment and lack of respect for the agencies. The TSA agent screws up, the supervisor is afraid the screw-up will reflect badly on his/her ability to manage properly and so the TSA seeks to justify the original error by trying to make the traveller look like the "guilty" party... :nope:

:doh: TSA has lack of work again?

Btw on another forum one lady summarized TSA's entry (intelligence) requirements as "being few fries short of Happy Meal". :DL

It is too bad that judgement is not a criteria for being a TSA supervisor. The shift supervisor who reviewed this action needs to be severely reprimanded or even fired for lack of judgement.

And people wonder why the TSA screeners don't carry weapons. Could you imagine these people with guns?

Beauracracy at it's finest. Yet a symptom of a larger problem.

I hear alot about deregulate the EPA and stuff from certain senators, but no one wants to deregulate these guys.

Ignore the arab and grope granny. Ignore the lady in a burqa and go through your kids diaper.

The requirements to work there are low as well. Maybe I will dredge up a list of bad moves by the TSA since it's induction, and how it is complicit in the American plot to take away our liberties.

Oh, but your paranoid....

Nope.

The patriot act caused this crap.

More terrorist acts after 9-11 were thwarted by passengers than the TSA.

But it is a great money sinkhole for the government, while we prepare to starve the elderly, with "cuts"

Pitchforks and lynch mobs are the only thing that will save us.



Men fight for freedom, then they begin to accumulate laws to take it away from themselves. ~Author Unknown

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Absolutely crazy :DL

Yes, overreaction, that being said: how about flying with another purse...just saying.:o

don't you think that if that is your recommended policy, they should have stated somewhere that no images of weapons should be allowed on planes either?...just saying :o

I don't think the young lady expected the purse to be an issue. I think if you went to the TSA website, you wouldn't find "embossed reprentation of a firearm" in the list of prohibited items. She had already flown with the purse and had no previous problems (apparently at airports where Barney Fife did not work for the TSA). This is just common sense: the "gun" is basically a 3D picture that is neither operable, loadable, or potentially dangerous or lethal. Quite frankly, if there were no other items of any possible harm in the purse, ti was an inert, non-threatening object. (Although, some purses, in the hands of some women, can be formidible weapons, as are some of the contents some women carry...)

It was metal in the shape of a gun, any security check should flag that up.
Even without the gun design a bag with that much metal stuck on it is going to get attention, just like a big belt buckle does or a big bunch of keys.
Whats the chance that she made a big scene refusing to check the bag and as such was given even more scrutiny for that suspicious behavior...which made her miss the flight.

Well said

Common sense would be that if they have a policy as stated then attempting to fly with a bit of metal shaped like a gun is not very clever

Was the object really metal and shaped like a gun? From the pictures it looked like it was more like leather-working embossing.

If it was made of metal, that changes the story a little.

Watch the video.

As much as I am going to be flamed for this, you have no constitutional right to fly on a plane. It comes down to "private property" issues. My house my rules and in this case, federal laws and guidelines. If you want to fly on a plane anywhere in the world (you should see how they treat round eyes in Chinese airports) , you give up your 4th amendment right to search and seizure.

If you want to get into how the government should or should not regulate air travel is a completely different discussion.

You can bring firearms on a plane, as long as it is declared, in a locked suitcase that is checked in. Carry-on no. Shucks, look at the restrictions on toiletries, does it surprise you that a little common sense would have told you not to bring that particular purse......

Shouldn't be any flaming because that is against the forum rules...good honest debate and I personally find this thread interesting.

The TSA may have overreacted but the individual may have been better advised to carry an item with a different logo considering the location.

Just my two cents.

Fixed.

Ninth Amendment.
You have the right to do anything you want, as long as it doesn't interfere with anyone else's right to do the same.

On the one hand, it's the airlines' house and rules. As a private concern they do have the right to refuse service to anyone, as the Constitution only applies to the Federal Government.

On the other hand, we make laws to protect ourselves from each other, and only the Federal Government is big enough to protect us all in this case. In these modern times something like TSA is, like law, taxes and government in general, is a necessary evil. That said, it is indeed necessary, and we all pay the price.

Comparing experiences here with experiences elsewhere is, to my mind, is in this case irrelevant. Are you saying that we should be grateful that our intrusive system is not as bad as theirs? I am, but I shouldn't have to be.

Saying the girl should have known better is just like saying she shouldn't have dressed provocatively if she didn't want to be raped. While true, it's still commenting on something that shouldn't be. A one-minute examination of the purse would have told the officials everything they needed to know.

All I needed to see was:
Florida

Teen

TSA


That's all you really need to know, the story just writes itself at that point.:dead: