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Gerald 11-27-11 04:33 PM

The Enduring Cult of Kennedy!
 
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THE cult of John F. Kennedy has the resilience of a horror-movie villain. No matter how many times the myths of Camelot are seemingly interred by history, they always come shambling back to life — in another television special, another Vanity Fair cover story, another hardcover hagiography. It’s fitting, then, that the latest exhumation comes courtesy of Stephen King himself. King serves a dual role in our popular culture: He’s at once the master of horror and the bard of the baby boom, writing his way through the twilit borderlands where the experiences of the post-World War II generation are stalked by nightmares and shadowed by metaphysical dread. In this landscape, the death of J.F.K. looms up like the Overlook Hotel. The gauzy fantasy of the Kennedy White House endures precisely because the reality of the assassination still feels like a primal catastrophe — an irruption of inexplicable evil as horrifying as any supernatural bogeyman. At its best, King’s new Kennedy assassination novel, “11/22/63” — which sends its protagonist back in time to change that November day’s events — offers an implicit critique of this generational obsession. (I am not giving much away when I reveal that the time-traveling hero does not succeed in freeing ’60s America from the cruel snares of history.) But its narrative power still depends on accepting the false premises of the Kennedy cult — premises that will no doubt endure so long as the 1960s generation does, but still deserve to be challenged at every opportunity.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/27/op...me&ref=general


Note: November 26, 2011

nikimcbee 11-27-11 04:46 PM

In before August.:haha:

I need to ask about the PT-boat stories:hmmm:.

Torplexed 11-27-11 05:08 PM

That's the beauty of dying at the pinnacle of success and charisma. The wide-eyed idealistic optimists of yesteryear assume we would be living in some sort of political nirvana right now if Kennedy had escaped the assassin's bullet. Human and American history says otherwise. Ted Kennedy lived a long time and it often wasn't pretty.

TLAM Strike 11-27-11 06:42 PM

For me JFK will always be the president who Canceled Project Orion and basically gave the finger all of humanity.

nikimcbee 11-27-11 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1795216)
For me JFK will always be the president who Canceled Project Orion and basically gave the finger all of humanity.


...and he did it just to spite you.:yeah::dead:

Jimbuna 11-27-11 06:47 PM

Quite a good President IMHO.

Platapus 11-27-11 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1795216)
For me JFK will always be the president who Canceled Project Orion and basically gave the finger all of humanity.

And pray tell, why would canceling research on nuclear pulse propulsion be giving the finger to all humanity?

August 11-27-11 07:51 PM

Steven King doing a story about JFK? :doh:

Takeda Shingen 11-27-11 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1795233)
And pray tell, why would canceling research on nuclear pulse propulsion be giving the finger to all humanity?

It wasn't. TLAM just really, really likes space stuff.

TLAM Strike 11-27-11 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1795233)
And pray tell, why would canceling research on nuclear pulse propulsion be giving the finger to all humanity?

By stranding us here on this rock to we wiped out by war, plague or the next comet that passes too close.

Not to mention the vast amounts of natural resources found outside of Earth that could be fueling our civilization right now:
One near Earth asteroid could have enough mineral wreath to pay off the US national debt.
Saturn has enough He3 to fuel a fusion reactor the size of Texas.
There is enough silica on Luna to build solar mirrors to control rising global temperatures.
and the Ort cloud has enough water to cover Mars in it.

Sooooo... economic collapse, energy crisis, climate change, water shortages: those would all be gone. Not to mention an Orion is one hell of an orbital defense platform capable to engaging ICBMs.

Takeda Shingen 11-27-11 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1795265)
By stranding us here on this rock to we wiped out by war, plague or the next comet that passes too close.

Not to mention the vast amounts of natural resources found outside of Earth that could be fueling our civilization right now:
One near Earth asteroid could have enough mineral wreath to pay off the US national debt.
Saturn has enough He3 to fuel a fusion reactor the size of Texas.
There is enough silica on Luna to build solar mirrors to control rising global temperatures.
and the Ort cloud has enough water to cover Mars in it.

Sooooo... economic collapse, energy crisis, climate change, water shortages: those would all be gone. Not to mention an Orion is one hell of an orbital defense platform capable to engaging ICBMs.

You're presupposing that space travel will change human nature.

mookiemookie 11-28-11 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1795292)
You're presupposing that space travel will change human nature.

Yeah well all the humans seem to get along pretty well with each other in Star Trek, Mr. Smarty Pants. :O:

Takeda Shingen 11-28-11 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1795396)
Yeah well all the humans seem to get along pretty well with each other in Star Trek, Mr. Smarty Pants. :O:

Oh well in that case, QED. :haha:

August 11-28-11 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1795396)
Yeah well all the humans seem to get along pretty well with each other in Star Trek, Mr. Smarty Pants. :O:

Really? From what i've seen of their various flavors, as long as they have to defeat the Borg or the Romulans they get along fine, but otherwise nearly every human visitor to the ship brings drama of one form or the other.

sidslotm 11-28-11 12:48 PM

I remember coming home from school in 63 finding mum glued to the radio listening to the news about the death of President Kennedy.

Kennedy was a light to the free world at a time of despair after being devistated by global conflict, and looked like starting over with Russia. He brought hope to people around the world of better things to come.

I know since his death many things about his private life have been aired in public, but let he that is without sin, etc etc.

I find it a shame that people can only pick over this great mans spirit to glorify themselves with pointless and meaningless books and movies.

vienna 11-28-11 01:30 PM

Let's see...

According to documents released after his death and accounts by reputable persons who were privy to the White House during the "Camelot" years, at the time of his death, Kennedy was actively pusuing an end to U.S. involvement in Vietnam; was moving forward on a plan to either rein in or eliminate the Federal Reserve Bank system; moving to end CIA infiltration of non-political humanitarian efforts such as the Peace Corps.; broadening the efforts of the U.S. Attorney-General, Robert Kennedy, to clamp down on organized crime and its links to the labor unions; pushing for accountability from the FBI (and J. Edgar Hoover); actively endorsing technological advances; attempting to break the "unholy alliance" of the "military-industrial complex"; and, had successfully faced down the USSR...

Not to shabby for less than three years efforts... :hmmm:

August 11-28-11 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 1795548)
Not to shabby for les than three years efforts... :hmmm:

Yeah well lets not confuse accomplishments with wish lists. I can say I'm pushing to end world hunger. That doesn't mean I should put it on my resume'.

vienna 11-28-11 02:02 PM

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Yeah well lets not confuse accomplishments with wish lists. I can say I'm pushing to end world hunger. That doesn't mean I should put it on my resume'.
These were more than just "wish lists"; these were active, on-going efforts, cut short by 11/22/63...

Gee, I wonder who benefitted most from that bullet?... :hmmm:

August 11-28-11 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 1795564)
These were more than just "wish lists"; these were active, on-going efforts, cut short by 11/22/63...

Gee, I wonder who benefitted most from that bullet?... :hmmm:

Well off the top of my head:
The Mob
The Castro regime
The storied Military-Industrial complex
L.B.J.
The Soviets
The Red Chinese

Take your pick...

Oh and FWIW my effort to end world hunger is both active and ongoing. I tossed a buck in the Salvation Army pot this weekend and will likely slip them more before the holiday season is over! :D

Betonov 11-28-11 04:10 PM

He even left his mark in our parts. The diesel engines he gave Tito as a gift are still operational after 50 years

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