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Gerald 11-03-11 12:29 PM

Is Obama Toast? Handicapping the 2012 Election
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/06/ma...n.html?_r=1&hp

Note: November 3, 2011

Oberon 11-03-11 12:32 PM

Yes, he's toast, I'd be very surprised to see him make a second term.

HunterICX 11-03-11 12:34 PM

Obama Toast?

HunterICX

Gerald 11-03-11 12:54 PM

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/5551/obamatoast3.jpg

Ducimus 11-03-11 01:00 PM

Personally i think Obama's presidency was destined to be 1 term presidency the instant he took office.

1480 11-03-11 01:12 PM

Well, his chief of staff and secretary of state are leaving 2012. Turnover of staff and cabinet members is not an indicator of really anything.

breadcatcher101 11-03-11 01:15 PM

I like toast. I don't like Obama. Therefore Obama can not be toast.

Perhaps a waffle.

1480 11-03-11 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by breadcatcher101 (Post 1779958)
I like toast. I don't like Obama. Therefore Obama can not be toast.

Perhaps a waffle.

Aren't you in the area where Waffle House is the rule rather than exception?

Gerald 11-03-11 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by breadcatcher101 (Post 1779958)
I like toast. I don't like Obama. Therefore Obama can not be toast.

Perhaps a waffle.

Like this,

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9189/waffle2.jpg

AVGWarhawk 11-03-11 01:25 PM

Obama will win another term and it is not for his record/current administration or how well he runs a campaign.

You heard it here first. :03:

mookiemookie 11-03-11 01:53 PM

Nate Silver is one of the sharpest political guys out there.

AVGWarhawk 11-03-11 01:56 PM

Good for Nate! :yeah: Obama is still winning.

1480 11-03-11 02:20 PM

http://thehill.com/opinion/columnist...iability-tests

CCIP 11-03-11 02:22 PM

Actually I still don't think he's toast. He's not done anything to earn a 2nd term, that much is true, but the GOP opposition is not looking very strong at the moment either.

Seth8530 11-03-11 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1779942)

shoulda left it in the toaster a little longer.

CCIP 11-03-11 02:43 PM

lol

As for Obama, I was tired of all the portrayals of him as either some demi-Jesus of America's Hope on the one hand, or the socialist he-who-must-always-be-named on the other. He's neither, and what I think most people failed to see when he was going in was that he was something far more banal - a fast-dealing Chicago politician. And that is exactly how he's acted in his time in office, no more no less.

JU_88 11-03-11 02:47 PM

Well im not American but if I was, I think the Republicans would actually get my vote if Ron Paul was running, I dont like that hes a pro-lifer, but other than that, the guy makes quite alot of sense to me.
But Id rather have Obama than some moron like Sarah Palin.
But like I said, Im not American - so good luck with it.

AVGWarhawk 11-03-11 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP (Post 1780020)
lol

As for Obama, I was tired of all the portrayals of him as either some demi-Jesus of America's Hope on the one hand, or the socialist he-who-must-always-be-named on the other. He's neither, and what I think most people failed to see when he was going in was that he was something far more banal - a fast-dealing Chicago politician. And that is exactly how he's acted in his time in office, no more no less.

It will not matter how he portrays himself in the upcoming campaign which he has kicked off. He will not win on merit. He will not win for his current administration. He will not loose to any Republican candidate However, he will win.

AVGWarhawk 11-03-11 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JU_88 (Post 1780023)
Well im not American but if I was, I think the Republicans would actually get my vote if Ron Paul was running, I dont like that hes a pro-lifer, but other than that, the guy makes quite alot of sense to me.
But Id rather have Obama than some moron like Sarah Palin.
But like I said, Im not American - so good luck with it.

Ron Paul has no chance.

mapuc 11-03-11 03:45 PM

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Isn't it indifferent wich president that sit in the white house in the next period?

This coming president have-to say it nicely- a real tuff job to do and he/she have to do something that would make him/her the most hated person in USA.

Raise taxes, cut military costs, cut other things (in wich I can't remember the name)

Markus


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