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Bubblehead1980 10-11-11 01:20 PM

Herman Cain...driving the left crazy
 
The true racists in American politics...the left/democrats are really showing it with their attitude towards Herman Cain because he is not on the "democratic plantation" as he put it.A intelligent, successful, self reliant and made black man that is not "down" for the (alleged) "struggle" and does not play the victim card really does drive these people crazy.

Lawrence O Donnell is the most recent example with his attempted hatchet job on Cain during an interview last week, but Cain is too smart for a hack such as O Donnell. Anyone else enjoying this?

Cain's interview with O Donnell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqKekzazZIs

lengthy but worth the watch.

AVGWarhawk 10-11-11 01:30 PM

I watched this last week. O'Donnell should really consider another line of work.

soopaman2 10-11-11 01:45 PM

Mr. 1980, I believe he is driving the right crazy too.

The bosses want Perry, They want someone who will play ball.

Herman is a loose cannon, I am (and it is no secret) more inclined to leftists beliefs, but Mr. Cain speaks truth. He is honest, not teleprompter driven.

He don't have the financial support the other candidates have, and is still making himself out to be the stronger, less controversial candidate.

At this point, just like before with Bush the country seems to be seeking an anything but Obama ticket. But seem to be less reckless this time around. When it was "anything but bush, they blew past more competent politicians (with balls and experience) like Mrs. Clinton . Who would have had the fortitude to muscle a non-cooperative congress around.(I am not as articulate as some around here,It don't make my opinions any less relevant:))

JU_88 10-11-11 01:50 PM

Watched it all, he dodges questions like every other politician on the planet, whats the big deal?
And the interveiwer was piss poor.

AVGWarhawk 10-11-11 02:08 PM

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And the interveiwer was piss poor.
Frankly, if I am the owner of this station I would have sent O'Donnell packing after watching that interview.


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Mr. Cain speaks truth. He is honest, not teleprompter driven.
He is not part of the establishment.

Armistead 10-11-11 02:12 PM

I like Cain, but it doesn't matter what tax policy we have, as long as laws allow corporations to move overseas they would do so in mass. Over the last generation we passed regulations to protect workers, competitive wages, regulations, etc, but we let corps move overseas where they don't have to deal. In a global economy where corps can operate where they want at will there is only one way jobs are coming back to the USA, that's when we accept piss wages, no regulations, etc....

Before corps could operate at will overseas they still made great profits, yet worked for the good of America, now they only work for the elite few.
It's a lie for the GOP to sell tax breaks as job creators, anytime we give corps tax breaks they invest it overseas and more US jobs are lost.

AVGWarhawk 10-11-11 02:16 PM

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It's a lie for the GOP to sell tax breaks as job creators, anytime we give corps tax breaks they invest it overseas and more US jobs are lost.
I agree. Outsourcing has created a problem. I like Cain for a few reasons. I do not agree with everything and will not no matter the candidate. I think Cains 9-9-9 plan is not achievable however he recognizes that the tax code needs to be addressed.

August 10-11-11 02:20 PM

If it comes down to Obama and Cain next year i'm voting for Cain. If it's Obama and Perry, i'm going with Obama. Obama and Romney?, it's a toss up for me at this point.

Osmium Steele 10-11-11 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 1765387)
The bosses want Perry, They want someone who will play ball.

Disagree with you here. The public liked the thought of Perry, until he tanked a few debates. The big boys are backing Romney this time around.

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Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 1765387)
(I am not as articulate as some around here,

Bah! You do fine. :up:

AVGWarhawk 10-11-11 02:27 PM

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The big boys are backing Romney this time around.
And if these big boys back Romney against the voters wished?

August 10-11-11 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1765414)
And if these big boys back Romney against the voters wished?

You mean like overturn GoP primary results?

AVGWarhawk 10-11-11 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1765417)
You mean like overturn GoP primary results?

Exactly. I'm really believing at this point Cain is going to be much more prominent than first thought. He is getting his message out with little to no funding. People are responding to him....and in droves.

soopaman2 10-11-11 02:37 PM

Cain for me represents a sane middle ground. I believe in compromise. I think a fair middle ground to achieve a happy balance.

Sure I find his comments on the Wall Street Protestors repulsive. But that is just one facet of his character. It is an honest opinion and he didn't lie or dodge it like Obammy would have.

As said above, he recognizes the tax system is broken and needs to be equalized. It may mean more taxes across the brackets, but I am willing to pay for services (police, snow removal, fireman, education, first aid, SSI etc)

AVGWarhawk 10-11-11 02:48 PM

Cain will certainly say some dumb things. They all say dumb things. There is the ever present watch for 'got'cha' questions. It is expected now.

nikimcbee 10-11-11 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1765409)
If it comes down to Obama and Cain next year i'm voting for Cain. If it's Obama and Perry, i'm going with Obama. Obama and Romney?, it's a toss up for me at this point.

Curious why'd you would go with the bamster over Perry?

Armistead 10-11-11 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1765405)
I agree. Outsourcing has created a problem. I like Cain for a few reasons. I do not agree with everything and will not no matter the candidate. I think Cains 9-9-9 plan is not achievable however he recognizes that the tax code needs to be addressed.


I think his 999 plan just shows the politics coming out in him, he knows it's undoable, was told so, but he liked the sound of it, simple and to the point, even if it means nothing, it's a good campaign slogan.

Fact is, other than the bully pulpit the president has lil to do with passing economic policy.

AVGWarhawk 10-11-11 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 1765470)
I think his 999 plan just shows the politics coming out in him, he knows it's undoable, was told so, but he liked the sound of it, simple and to the point, even if it means nothing, it's a good campaign slogan.

True, but I pointed out the plan not achievable but Cain recognizes tax code is a mess. This are areas that need to be addressed.

August 10-11-11 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 1765462)
Curious why'd you would go with the bamster over Perry?

Well it's because I don't feel that Perry would make a better President and i'd prefer to go with the evil I know.

soopaman2 10-11-11 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1765531)
Well it's because I don't feel that Perry would make a better President and i'd prefer to go with the evil I know.

This statement is a reality in American politics today.

Who will violate me more gently?:down:

It is supposed to be, who will serve me better.:up:

Something is broken, but the damage control team refuses to fix it.

Bubblehead1980 10-11-11 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 1765387)
Mr. 1980, I believe he is driving the right crazy too.

The bosses want Perry, They want someone who will play ball.

Herman is a loose cannon, I am (and it is no secret) more inclined to leftists beliefs, but Mr. Cain speaks truth. He is honest, not teleprompter driven.

He don't have the financial support the other candidates have, and is still making himself out to be the stronger, less controversial candidate.

At this point, just like before with Bush the country seems to be seeking an anything but Obama ticket. But seem to be less reckless this time around. When it was "anything but bush, they blew past more competent politicians (with balls and experience) like Mrs. Clinton . Who would have had the fortitude to muscle a non-cooperative congress around.(I am not as articulate as some around here,It don't make my opinions any less relevant:))

You may be on the left I like your analysis, one of few lefties on here who are fair and mostly cordial.

Curious, why do you find Cain's comments about the Occupy Wall Street repulsive? The protesters are quite disgusting, weeks without showering, rampant drug abuse, public sex, littering etc. I am no prude but come on.Too bad Rudy is not the mayor, he would not stand for this crap.These people are not even sure what they are really protesting other than cleanliness lol.

Compare them to the tea party, peaceful, clean, protesters with a real message.Sure the OCCASIONAL crackpot gets in with a dumb sign etc but again, compare to these goons in the Occupy movement.

I agree that Cain is driving the establishment right crazy as well, because he is an authentic conservative who won't do the bidding of the GOP heads.


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