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Wolfehunter 04-13-11 08:05 PM

Nuts down south...
 
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/us-parents-...84204-447.html


:nope::stare::down:

If anyone touched my daughter like that.. It would get very ugly for that person.

Those airports are criminals... I hope they sue them for sexual harassment on a minor..

I would post more but its not politically correct.. :mad:

GoldenRivet 04-13-11 08:09 PM

I've been brewing over this today...

its quite disgusting.

I read an interesting article in an aviation magazine last week about the failings of our aviation security system in America.

like a lot things America does in this department - its being horribly mismanaged and done completely bass ackwards.

Feuer Frei! 04-13-11 08:17 PM

I, as the parent, would have lost it, big-time!
This is uncalled for.

Ducimus 04-13-11 09:01 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq6GCScrO0A

edit:
Original video sans commentary:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba030UmbkCo

UnderseaLcpl 04-13-11 09:24 PM

This bothers me as well, and I'm not even a parent.

Even so.....
Quote:

"This conduct is in clear violation of TSA's explicit policy not to conduct thorough pat-downs on children under the age of 13," Rep. Jason Chaffetz, chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Subcommittee on National Security, said in a statement Wednesday.
If I were some insane jihadist who was willing to kill hundreds of innocent people, that is a huge loophole I would exploit. They've not been above strapping Semtex to children before, and in this application they could even have the option of removing a vacuum-sealed charge and non-magnetic detonator from the child's body after screening.

Not that I condone the TSA pat-downs of children, of course, or the way they do things in general, for that matter. There are better, less-intrusive ways to handle the situation.

Ducimus 04-13-11 09:30 PM

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If I were some insane jihadist who was willing to kill hundreds of innocent people, that is a huge loophole I would exploit. They've not been above strapping Semtex to children before,
Come on now. Be real. How many anglo saxon protestants do you see running around that are Jihadists willing to strap Semtex to their precious snowflake?

TLAM Strike 04-13-11 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl (Post 1642400)
If I were some insane jihadist who was willing to kill hundreds of innocent people, that is a huge loophole I would exploit. They've not been above strapping Semtex to children before, and in this application they could even have the option of removing a vacuum-sealed charge and non-magnetic detonator from the child's body after screening.

This... :yep:

GoldenRivet 04-13-11 11:24 PM

things come full circle.

America will be a free country again.

unfortunately several hundred thousand people will probably die the next time things come full circle for our country.

we give up and give up and give up more and more and more.

and one day - i swear to God - one day we will look up and there wont be a damned thing left.

Freiwillige 04-13-11 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1642403)
Come on now. Be real. How many anglo saxon protestants do you see running around that are Jihadists willing to strap Semtex to their precious snowflake?

And there lies the real root of the problem, Because one does not wish to offend in this PC poisoned world they cant go off of stereotypes even know stereotypes exist for a reason.

I don't remember where I saw it but I saw a skit once where a group of people were walking through airport security and a bunch of taliban walked through with Ak-47's, turbine's and RPG's and they waved them through then pounced on an old lady like wolves.

gimpy117 04-13-11 11:45 PM

"He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither"- Benjamin Franklin

oh how this is so true

Krauter 04-14-11 12:40 AM

:nope:

papa_smurf 04-14-11 04:55 AM

TSA at it again:nope:

kraznyi_oktjabr 04-14-11 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1642403)
Come on now. Be real. How many anglo saxon protestants do you see running around that are Jihadists willing to strap Semtex to their precious snowflake?

Could you tell me how you distinguish "anglo saxon protestant" from "Jihadist willing to strap Semtex to their precious snowflake"? I doubt terrorist would say "Yes I'm Jihadist" to airport security when questioned and I doubt even more that they would say "My Semtex is on my daughters private area".

DarkFish 04-14-11 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by kraznyi_oktjabr (Post 1642577)
Could you tell me how you distinguish "anglo saxon protestant" from "Jihadist willing to strap Semtex to their precious snowflake"? I doubt terrorist would say "Yes I'm Jihadist" to airport security when questioned and I doubt even more that they would say "My Semtex is on my daughters private area".

Exactly! Apparently the TSA had cause to examine the girl more closely. IMO there's nothing wrong with that. Drugs and weapons are just as easy to hide on a kid as on an adult.

Don't want the risk of being frisked? Don't fly.

Fish In The Water 04-14-11 08:53 AM

Funny how they used to call them 'private parts,' but now they're just 'sensitive parts...'

'Tis a brave new world we live in, hope the TSA is havin' fun! :p2:

mookiemookie 04-14-11 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkFish (Post 1642658)
Don't want the risk of being frisked? Don't fly.

And what happens when they invade train stations? Bus stations? Stadium parking lots? Shopping malls?

By your logic - if you don't like police brutality, don't go outside. Don't you dare get caught rolling through a stop sign or going 2 miles over the speed limit.

If you don't like e. coli contamination in your food, don't eat. If you don't like smog, don't breathe. Don't like garbage in your water? Don't drink.

The "if you don't like it, don't do it" argument is specious and ridiculous.

Dowly 04-14-11 08:59 AM

Dont understand what's the big deal. :doh:

After seeing the video, the only thing that bugs me is the way the parents
acted. Instead of talking to the kid and maybe calming her and explaining
that it's ok and so on, they just stand there recording it and talking about a
drug test. No wonder the kid felt like she had done something wrong.

What if this said kid would have been carrying explosives? And after the damage
was done, the news would be all about how your airport security is too lax.

EDIT: Ah, the issue here is that TSA shouldn't do these type of searches on kids
under the age of 13?

DarkFish 04-14-11 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1642682)
And what happens when they invade train stations? Bus stations? Stadium parking lots? Shopping malls?

But they don't "invade" train stations, bus stations and parking lots, do they? So what's the point, really?

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By your logic - if you don't like police brutality, don't go outside. Don't you dare get caught rolling through a stop sign or going 2 miles over the speed limit.
How is what the TSA did "brutality"? Did did their job. They did exactly what they're supposed to do, namely search suspect persons. If a suspect happens to be a child, should that be a reason to let her pass?

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If you don't like e. coli contamination in your food, don't eat. If you don't like smog, don't breathe. Don't like garbage in your water? Don't drink.
Those comparisons are just bull. You can't just not drink or not eat. You don't have a choice. Whereas you do have a choice about flying.
But if you insist on comparing it with food, I know a valid one:
If you don't want to get infected with salmonella, don't eat raw eggs.


Why the HELL should a 6 year old girl be above the law?!

mookiemookie 04-14-11 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkFish (Post 1642687)
But they don't "invade" train stations, bus stations and parking lots, do they? So what's the point, really?

If people don't speak out, you can be sure that's what the next stop is. Oh lookie here, they're already doing it. What's your great idea now? Not take trains? Not drive? Just avoid transportation altogether, right?

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How is what the TSA did "brutality"? Did did their job. They did exactly what they're supposed to do, namely search suspect persons. If a suspect happens to be a child, should that be a reason to let her pass?
You completely missed the analogy. By the way, how many terrorists have the TSA caught in the past 10 years? Here's a hint: rhymes with "zero."

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Those comparisons are just bull. You can't just not drink or not eat. You don't have a choice. Whereas you do have a choice about flying.
But if you insist on comparing it with food, I know a valid one:
If you don't want to get infected with salmonella, don't eat raw eggs.
Yeah I'll tell my boss that the little 2 day business trip to London he wants to send me on, I have to take a week long boat ride or heck, just I'll just swim. I'm sure he'll be real understanding.

Congratulations on missing the point completely. If something is wrong the answer isn't to just throw up your hands and say "oh well, guess I'm not gonna do THAT anymore", you act to change it. The whole "when they came for..." thing.


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Why the HELL should a 6 year old girl be above the law?!
Why the HELL should we relinquish our dignity and submit to a police state? If I'm going to be patted down, I'm going to be sure I did something to deserve being patted down for.

DarkFish 04-14-11 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1642691)
If people don't speak out, you can be sure that's what the next stop is.

But you aren't there yet. So there's no sense to that argument at all.

Quote:

You completely missed the analogy.
Maybe because the analogy wasn't right in the first place.

Quote:

Yeah I'll tell my boss that the little 2 day business trip to London he wants to send me on, I have to take a week long boat ride or heck, just I'll just swim. I'm sure he'll be real understanding.
So if you are stopped by the UK customs to be searched, I take it you refuse and take the first plane back to the US to tell your boss those evil Brits don't let you into the country?

Quote:

Congratulations on missing the point completely. If something is wrong the answer isn't to just throw up your hands and say "oh well, guess I'm not gonna do THAT anymore", you act to change it. The whole "when they came for..." thing.
Congratulations on missing my point as well.
You know that if you fly you can be searched. It's just a risk you take. And if you don't want to take that risk, then I'm afraid the only option is to not fly.

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Why the HELL should we relinquish our dignity and submit to a police state?
Because the alternative to sometimes being frisked at airports is letting drug smugglers and terrorists into the country.


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