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112 Gripes about the French (Published in 1945)

I found this quiet interesting:

http://www.e-rcps.com/gripes/

That is a nice bit of history! Good find.

Entertaining and yet educational, with a generous amount of solidarity. I like it

I like this bold faced lie.

[FONT='Courier New',Courier,monospace]76. "The French have no courage. Why can't they defend themselves against the Germans ?"[/FONT]

[FONT='Courier New',Courier,monospace] Maybe it would be better to ask, "Why don't the Germans pick on someone their own size ?"[/FONT]

[FONT='Courier New',Courier,monospace] Modern warfare is not simply a matter of courage. A great lightweight can't lick a great heavyweight - even if he has courage to spare.[/FONT]

[FONT='Courier New',Courier,monospace] Hitler threw the manpower and industrial resources of over 80,000,000 Germans against 40,000,000 Frenchmen. The French did not have, and could not have had, the military and industrial power to beat Germany. (For instance, for the past hundred years France has not had enough coal, especially coking coal, to supply her peacetime needs. French iron ore normally flows to Germany's Ruhr valley for smelting, just as the ore of Minnesota goes to the coal and limestone area of Pittsburgh.)[/FONT]

[FONT='Courier New',Courier,monospace] France was beaten by Germany because Germany was enormously superior to France in manpower, equipment, resources, armament, and strategy. Germany had the incalculable advantage of having planned an offensive, Blitzkrieg war - while France, which wanted peace desperately, devoted its energies and training entirely to defensive measures. (That's why they built the Maginot Line.) The few advocates of modern mechanized armies (such as General de Gaulle) were like voices crying out in the wilderness. German propaganda, and "fifth column" activities financed from Berlin, helped to demoralize and confuse a nation that didn't want war in the first place.[/FONT]

[FONT='Courier New',Courier,monospace] The French lost 1,115,000 men and women, military and civilian, in dead, wounded and disabled. That is an enormous loss for a nation of 40 million. (The United States military casualties, up to V-J Day, were about 1,060,000 in dead and wounded.[/FONT]

112? Must've had ink/paper rationing still on :yep:

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69. "The French aren't our kind of people. The Germans are."

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The French were our allies during the American Revolution. They were our allies in 1917-1918. They were our allies in 1941-1945. What were the Germans?

Excellent point. Go to Yorktown in the spring when all the flags are up on the berms and gun emplacements see what flags fly there. Remember the Battle of the Capes a turning point in the war that prevented relief for Cornwallis.

However WWI was just a mess since I don't think anyone really knew what the heck they were fighting for. Just turned into a big chit storm when Austro-Hungarians were pressing for war with Slav states.

Now this is quite an interesting find. :up:

Fascinating article. Now bookmarked.

Thanks. :sunny:

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35. "The French do things different than we do. That's what I don't like."

It is always something of a shock when you run into different ways of talking, eating, doing things. But what is different is not always inferior: "different" does not mean "worse". There is more than one way of skinning a cat.

[FONT='Courier New',Courier,monospace] The story is told of an American soldier who saw some Chinese putting rice on the graves in a Chungking cemetery. "That doesn't make sense", said the American with a smile. "When do you expect the dead to eat the rice?"[/FONT]

[FONT='Courier New',Courier,monospace] "When your dead return to smell your flowers", was the answer.[/FONT]

OMG I wonder if I my dad was issued a copy of this or saw one that was passed around or was familiar with it or whatever. Because he used to tell that one about the flowers and rice ALL THE TIME. :haha:

Nice find but being a Brit I prefer this one :smug:

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html

And yes Steve I know I've posted this before :DL:03:

Wasn't there a joke from Google a while ago? When you searched for "French military victories" above the results it would say "Did you mean French military defeats?"

Don't know if it's true, but damn funny!

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Originally Posted by Bakkels (Post 1620983)

Yea they are true

http://i51.tinypic.com/14t6g6d.png

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1620888)

Nice find but being a Brit I prefer this one :smug:

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html

And yes Steve I know I've posted this before :DL:03:

:haha:

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- French Revolution
- Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.

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23. "The French are out for what they they can get. They always play the winner."
They didn't in 1939, when it looked to all the world as though the Germans were sure winners. The French and British could have let the Germans rape Poland without a protest. The French and British declared war on Germany.

Yes they declared war on Germany... and spent the next nine months sitting behind the Maginot Line while Germany and the Soviet Union raped Poland... :roll:

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1620888)

Nice find but being a Brit I prefer this one :smug:

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html

And yes Steve I know I've posted this before :DL:03:

I've seen that one a hundred times in a hundred places, and I don't remember you posting it before.

If I'm going to complain about anything it would be about how quickly this interesting French-supporting article got turned into just another French-bashing thread.

Just another day on the web.

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1621082)

If I'm going to complain about anything it would be about how quickly this interesting French-supporting article got turned into just another French-bashing thread.

What were you reading? It's not 112 Nice Things About The French... :hmmm:

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch (Post 1621124)

What were you reading?

The foreword of the original authors and the answers given in the booklet to those gripes?

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch (Post 1621124)

What were you reading? It's not 112 Nice Things About The French... :hmmm:

It most certainly is. It takes common slams at the French and carefully explains why they're wrong. The article is about great things the French have done for us. Did you miss that part?

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1621082)

Can't say I've seen many if any 'French-bashing threads' on here of late.

But yes, I do agree....just another day on the web.

But some are outright fabricated lies. Not to mention the German bashing in the original article.

In all honesty I really don't see any french bashing just humor based on outdated stereotypes, which is humorous in itself.

Kind of like this one, "Did you guys hear about the new Italian tanks in Africa? Its got eight gears! 7 reverse and one forward in case someone gets behind them!"

I don't think anybody truly hates the French or any other European nation and their idiosyncrasies but If we can't laugh at each other then whats left? Another War?