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GoldenRivet 01-15-11 11:29 AM

Veganism
 
As i sit here after enjoying a late breakfast of scrambled eggs, tobasco sauce, sausage and a biscuit im reminded... I have this friend, she is a vegan, we are guests in her house occasionally. Occasionally she will cook us dinner or perhaps breakfast if we choose to spend the night.

I'm here to tell you, either she cannot cook, or veganism is the most bland, tasteless, unexciting lifestyle where food is concerned.

everything we have ever consumed in her home has been made of some sort of whole wheat, whole grain, soy something or other and it has been a full time job just to choke down a few ounces of it.

she claims numerous health benifits to her veganism but this doesnt stop her from tipping the scales at over 200+ lbs, which, for her 5'4" frame is rather... fluffy.

We were eating breakfast at her house just a day or two ago and she made these cinnamon rolls... i can guess the recipe:

take one slice of whole grain bread and roll it into a biscuit shape. let it sit out for 2 days, drizzle it with watered down sour cream and cinnamon sprinkles... serve :cry:

but despite the horrendous lack of flavor in pretty much all of the dishes served, they all seem to take more than 1-2 hours to prepare. how it takes 2 hours to prepare and serve only to turn out with a taste comparable to 8.5"x11" college ruled notebook paper is beyond me.

personally, I'd just as soon eat two eggs over easy served atop a t-bone steak with a glass of orange juice. thats a working man's breakfast.

i'm thankful that i have a woman who knows how to feed her man something thats not only rich in flavor but is traditional and is going to stick to his bones until lunch time!

anyone else suffer through the vegan lifestyle in some way or another?




rant over;)

gimpy117 01-15-11 11:35 AM

veganism is silly.

cows make milk all by them selves

chickens lay eggs just for fun

and were gonna waste that?

Platapus 01-15-11 11:36 AM

Not many people who are vegans or vegetarians know how to cook their meals. :nope:

It does take some doing, however, a person used to eating meat will not be fooled. One of the mistakes that some vegans/vegetarians make is trying to make their food look and taste like meat. :nope:

That simply does not work. A good vegan meal will taste like a good vegan meal. And people need to recognize that may people just don't like the taste of vegan/vegetarian meals.:yep:

Platapus 01-15-11 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimpy117 (Post 1574796)
veganism is silly.

No it is not silly, it is a lifestyle that some choose that you don't agree with. Lets be a little more inclusive.

tater 01-15-11 11:38 AM

No, it's silly. It's a choice, but it's a silly choice.

And vegan food is indeed pretty awful. I've had loads of vegetarian food, and have vegetarian friends who are good cooks. I could eat good vegetarian food indefinitely. You'd be lucky to enjoy 1 in 100 vegan dishes that vegans themselves think are great.

Betonov 01-15-11 11:49 AM

Vegan food can be quite good, but prepare to fork out some coins. I remember when I was at a friends apartment once and his girlfrend was vegan and she made this salad that was excellent, but getting good red redish is quite a feat if its not spring/summer. And two hours later we went for a kebab :)

GoldenRivet 01-15-11 11:50 AM

I agree with Platapus that it is NOT silly.

I agree with Tater that 1 in 100 vegan meals will be enjoyed by a non vegan.

:salute:

DarkFish 01-15-11 11:50 AM

I agree it's a silly choice. Humans are omnivores. If we were destined to eat only plants, we'd been born as cows.
Meat contains loads of important nutrients. It's just weird to do things the hard way with special foods and dietary supplements etc. instead of simply eating some meat, eggs and dairy products.

It is a choice, yes. And everyone should be allowed to make that choice. But scientifically it's a weird choice.

Betonov 01-15-11 11:54 AM

Well, every woman puts a piece of meat into her mouth at least once in a lifetime, vegan or not

GoldenRivet 01-15-11 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 1574810)
Well, every woman puts a piece of meat into her mouth at least once in a lifetime, vegan or not

different kind of meat... and yes you're right... usually once. LOL

Sailor Steve 01-15-11 11:57 AM

Ocassionally I enjoy a salad with tomatoes, carrots and mushrooms. And ocassionally I enjoy a salad with tomatoes, carrots, mushrooms, eggs, ham, turkey, cheese and sometimes bacon.

I also like lettuce and tomato on my cheeseburgers.

Lettuce and tomato on steak? Not so much. Mushrooms, yeah.




Veggies: What food eats. :D

GoldenRivet 01-15-11 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1574812)
Veggies: What food eats. :D

I'm going to go ahead and steal that right now:yeah:

Sailor Steve 01-15-11 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1574813)
I'm going to go ahead and steal that right now:yeah:

Be my guest. I saw it on a bumper sticker. Also "I didn't claw my way to top of the food chain so I could eat veggies!"

papa_smurf 01-15-11 12:03 PM

Just cook a Bacon butty the next time shes over - that will turn her form Veganism:D

ERPP8 01-15-11 12:04 PM

Vegetarianism is dumb,
The animals are ALREADY dead, you eating or not eating meat only keeps it on the shelf for maybe another hour.
Veganism is a new level of dumb,
milking an animal is not harmful or bad. That's like saying breastfeeding hurts the mother, it's actually harmful to NOT milk a cow enough.
Naturally, animals die, it's normal. Humans have become predators and there are other predators in the world. If you want to complain about animals dying, watch The Lion King, or go yell at all the other predators like wolfs, and cheetahs.
Meat tastes good, it's good for your health and it's natural.

tater 01-15-11 12:04 PM

I love a good salad, but "raw" foods mean that opportunities to "cook" anything the least bit complex are rare (since they don't cook anything).

BTW, I think getting 1 in 100 vegan meals to even taste "decent" would be optimistic.

Vegetarian meals, OTOH, are an entirely different story.

Betonov 01-15-11 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tater (Post 1574820)
I love a good salad, but "raw" foods mean that opportunities to "cook" anything the least bit complex are rare (since they don't cook anything).

That you're right. I can never stand any vegetables that have been exposed to heat in any way except maybe light steaming. I love a good salad with some tomatoes, fresh lettuce, olives, spring onions and red redish.... but once you boil them it looks and tastes like something you took from a compost

And about the: it's a choice. Yes it is, no one has the right to tell them they shouldnt do it. But it works both ways and the vegans are outright abnoxius about trying to impose their views on us carnivores

ETR3(SS) 01-15-11 12:52 PM

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....es/bigpot6.jpg

tater 01-15-11 12:52 PM

I cook veggies almost exclusively with dry heat. Roasting does wonders. Drives off water, heats, and concentrates flavors.

Perhaps tossed with olive oil, and some salt. Simple, and good.

I guarantee my roasted broccoli is better tasting than ANY vegan broccoli preparation on earth (which apparently would be serving it raw with maybe something else raw on top).

Vegan spices? Lesse, they don't cook anything—vegans eat RAW food, right? Most spices require cooking to release flavors. Many Indian spices, for example actually taste BAD when un cooked. A few seconds in hot oil... awesome.

Veganism is crazy, IMO. I've never met a vegan who wasn't more than a little nutty. It's their CHOICE, but it is none the less true that virtually all I've met are kooks. BTW, how many strict carnivores have you met? Think they'd be nuts, too? How about people that only eat meat, and only eat it RAW. That would be the meat-eating version of a vegan. If the one idea is insane, so is the other.

tater 01-15-11 12:56 PM

My bad, not all vegan do the only raw food thing.

So those that cook (the majority) are not entirely crazy. Still, the number that can actually cook well are few and far between.

We went to a dinner with Anthony Bourdain (Kitchen Confidential, Cook's Tour, etc) and after his talk he went around the room and sat at each table for a while (was not a huge gathering) and chatted. My wife asked him what the worst meal he'd ever had was. For TV shows he'd eaten some horrible stuff that makes you sick to think about. His answer? A vegan pot-luck in Berkeley. Worst meal on earth, and they knew they were serving a chef who disdains vegetarian food, so they did their very best to convert him.


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