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frau kaleun 12-16-10 06:07 PM

Switching to Windows 64-bit
 
Hey all,

I am thinking about switching to the 64-bit OS provided I don't have to completely rebuild my 1 year old machine. Trying to figure out how much of what I have already would be compatible with the switch.

My processor is an AMD Athlon II X2 Dual Core, the specs for it say "yes" for simultaneous 32- & 64-bit computing, I am assuming that means it will support a 64-bit OS?

If so, what else do I need to verify before I consider making the change? I know I'll need 64-bit drivers for "all devices" which I can check on easily when it comes to printers and external stuff and drives I guess but what other stuff in the innards of the beast do I need to check on?

Thanks for any help/advice!

stoppro 12-16-10 06:17 PM

You will have to make sure the mother board can handle 8 or more gigs of ram and that it is two channel[I think} i'm sure the brainworms will be along to exspand on this

frau kaleun 12-16-10 06:23 PM

The motherboard specs on memory say:

Quote:

  • 4 x DIMM, Max.8 GB, DDR2 1066/800/667/ ECC,NonECC,Un-buffered Memory
  • Dual Channel memory architecture
  • *DDR2 1066 is supported by AM2+ CPU only


stoppro 12-16-10 07:01 PM

so far das goot you should be able to change over with out any problems except reformating the drive which when I did it I had someone else do it.I wasn't confident then to try it.

onelifecrisis 12-16-10 07:13 PM

Frau, is your hard drive partitioned? If so, you could install W64 on a different partition... if you're tech-savvy enough for that.

frau kaleun 12-16-10 07:14 PM

I downloaded and ran the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor and the 64-bit report looks good. :yeah:

There are a couple programs that aren't compatible but they are MS stuff that would probably not be reinstalled anyway after the upgrade.

The only other notices are about updating drivers on printers and stuff.

I know I'll have to update stuff for the BIOS (?) and chipset and that's the kind of stuff that worries me - hardware that I installed or added, I know about and can tick off on a list as I go. The innards that came with the rig are a different matter.

Anyway, looking at Win7 it appears that if you buy it you get both 32 and 64 bit versions so if I upgraded the OS at all, I'd still have either option to fall back on.

Yikes, though - I've got a 1TB external drive that all my music and backups and program setup files are on. Will that have to be reformatted if it's not a bootable drive in order to access the files again? I'd have to back up 200+ gigs of data somewhere. :doh:

longam 12-16-10 07:19 PM

64bit refers to your OS and its CPU processing. Your external drive is formatted with NTFS because windows XP can read it, so its good to go.

stoppro 12-16-10 07:19 PM

no you can keep your back-ups gee frau your losing your touch. It took almost an hour to get anyone over here!

frau kaleun 12-16-10 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onelifecrisis (Post 1555002)
Frau, is your hard drive partitioned? If so, you could install W64 on a different partition... if you're tech-savvy enough for that.

It's partitioned into a C drive (that boots with XP) and a small D drive for the "Image Backup" that was done when the system was built. There's a little over 49 GB free on the C drive.

frau kaleun 12-16-10 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longam (Post 1555012)
64bit refers to your OS and its CPU processing. Your external drive is formatted with NTFS because windows XP can read it, so its good to go.

WHEW!

*wipes sweat from forehead*

So I could install W64 on the bootable drive and then plug in the external drive as per usual and still access all the data on it? That would cut, oh, about a zillion hours out of the process. :D

stoppro 12-16-10 07:40 PM

yes

JSLTIGER 12-16-10 07:40 PM

Switching from a 32-bit OS to a 64-bit OS is usually not a big deal, because all of the 32-bit programs will run normally. Unless you're using ~20 year old software that is 16-bit (b/c 16-bit is no longer supported by Windows x64), you ought to be fine. That being said, generally the only reason not to use a 64-bit OS these days is because you have an older computer with less than 4GB of RAM. If you have less than that, there is no point to using 64-bit software, but a 64-bit OS will let you use all of your RAM if you have 4GB or more.

As to your above question, you should not notice any difference in the functioning of your external HDD between 32-bit and 64-bit. Accessing your files should be as normal. Just remember that programs that you might have installed will not work because the registry will be written over. You also do not need to install Win x64 to the external HDD unless you want to boot from it, which I wouldn't recommend, because USB 2.0 is slow.

Madox58 12-16-10 07:42 PM

I just finished an install of Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit on the new donor system.

VERY few drivers needed updated.
And this is an older system.
I'd suggest moveing important stuff to an external HD.
(You do have one of those don't you? They are cheap and save you MUCH pain!)

Then do a clean 'Go for it' install.
You will be amazed at the improvement in your system.

frau kaleun 12-16-10 07:43 PM

Well, I have 6 GB of RAM on hand that I can use on this rig, but of course 1/3 of that is wasted with 32-bit. One reason why I want to make the change, especially if it doesn't mean replacing the CPU and motherboard.

JSLTIGER 12-16-10 07:45 PM

Nope, no replacements necessary on your CPU or motherboard. All AMD Athlons since the 64 back in 2003 have supported 64-bit OSes. You should be good to go.

frau kaleun 12-16-10 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1555030)
I just finished an install of Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit on the new donor system.

VERY few drivers needed updated.
And this is an older system.
I'd suggest moveing important stuff to an external HD.
(You do have one of those don't you? They are cheap and save you MUCH pain!)

Yep, see above. The bulk of my data files and all backups are on an external HD. One reason I didn't get a huge internal HD when I bought this critter... aside from My Documents and My Pictures, pretty much everything except the OS and program files are on the external drive. I never have gotten around to moving those two, and My Documents I wasn't sure about redirecting because of games that keep saved data in there... wasn't sure if that would affect performance when loading/playing.

frau kaleun 12-16-10 08:11 PM

Heh, Ultimate was only $10 more than Pro at Amazon.

So - it's ordered (via Subsim link of course). Downside is I will have to change out of my peejays on Monday afternoon and run down to the office to pick it up. I was gonna do a reformat/reinstall anyway over the holidays while I had the time - I'm taking all of next week off so I can tinker at my leisure. This will be more fun. Provided I can get it up and running by Wednesday when I'll need to get online to pay my bills. :O:

Gerald 12-16-10 08:15 PM

But with your charm, you can certainly arrange for you to get access to another computer, perhaps as someone else go in and pay your bills also, :D

stoppro 12-16-10 08:28 PM

I don't know....but I think she's all business today.

frau kaleun 12-16-10 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1555047)
But with your charm, you can certainly arrange for you to get access to another computer, perhaps as someone else go in and pay your bills also, :D

And they can peel me a grape while they're at it. :O:

I can always go to the office and use my computer there... but as I'm on vacation, it's not an option I really want to take advantage of!

EDIT: So, has anyone used this Windows Easy Transfer program to back up and restore files before/after upgrading to Win7? The pics and docs on my disk are easy enough to back up externally, I'm thinking in terms of settings and the stuff in Outlook (email, contacts, etc.). I seem to remember the process of backing up Outlook and getting everything back in there when I switched computers the last time was giving me fits. I prolly did something wrong when I was creating the backup, but still, if there's an easier way than the one that works from within Outlook that would be awesome.


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