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Bubblehead1980 11-13-10 11:44 AM

Why don't the Dems get it?
 
So it's been almost two weeks since the "shellacking" of the Dems in the elections and since then have noticed that even after the Dems and Barry O just do not get it.

I've heard Barry, Pelosi and other Democrats try to claim that this was not the American people telling them to stop but just there was a "communication issue", the voters were "misinformed", or just annoyed with the "slow but steady progress".

Yet you have heard multiple Republicans publicly say they are aware this was not a ringing endorsement of the GOP but a message for Barry and the Dems.The GOP/Tea Party gets it on this for sure.

Another sign the Dems just don't get it is they may let Pelosi become minority leader? So they may allow the woman who lead then to the disaster of Nov 2 stay leader? Denial is a scary thing. Lets hope they don't push anymore radical parts of their agenda during the lame duck session, such as the DREAM act or other bleeding heart crap.

DarkFish 11-13-10 11:58 AM

Why have I got the feeling I've seen this thread before?:hmmm:

Ah, General Topics... nevermind:shifty:

SteamWake 11-13-10 12:26 PM

I say let them install Pelosi as minority speaker.

Let that wretched hag be the face of the liberal democrats. Remind everyone how they just dont get it.

"Its not my fault we lost..." :har:

Tribesman 11-13-10 02:15 PM

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So it's been almost two weeks since the "shellacking" of the Dems in the elections and since then have noticed that even after the Dems and Barry O just do not get it.

It been almost two weeks from the mid terms and you still don't get that its just the mid terms, yet even if it was the main elections you still end up with just a bunch of muppets.
Its you who doesn't get it Bubble, a few years out of school in the real world should cure you though.

So it isn't the politicians who don't get it, its the voters who think the politicians really give a toss what the voter think that are the ones that don't get it.

mookiemookie 11-13-10 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1534811)
It been almost two weeks from the mid terms and you still don't get that its just the mid terms, yet even if it was the main elections you still end up with just a bunch of muppets.
Its you who doesn't get it Bubble, a few years out of school in the real world should cure you though.

So it isn't the politicians who don't get it, its the voters who think the politicians really give a toss what the voter think that are the ones that don't get it.

B-b-b-but it's different this time!

Takeda Shingen 11-13-10 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1534833)
B-b-b-but it's different this time!

It will be. John Boehner's tears have magical properties that will cleanse the impurities found within the Legislative Branch of government.

Buddahaid 11-13-10 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1534837)
It will be. John Boehner's tears have magical properties that will cleanse the impurities found within the Legislative Branch of government.

We are healed.

yubba 11-13-10 04:02 PM

Lefty dems claim commununication issue :hmmm: even I understood, 1 spread the wealth around:O:. 2 we were the enemy and should be punished:down:. 3 com pre hens alble immigration:damn:. 4 raise taxes. 5 my favorite, we have too pass these bills in a hurry so we can find out whats in them:har: no wonder they got hosed.

Bubblehead1980 11-13-10 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1534811)
It been almost two weeks from the mid terms and you still don't get that its just the mid terms, yet even if it was the main elections you still end up with just a bunch of muppets.
Its you who doesn't get it Bubble, a few years out of school in the real world should cure you though.

So it isn't the politicians who don't get it, its the voters who think the politicians really give a toss what the voter think that are the ones that don't get it.


Tribesman,

I am plenty of aware of how politics works BUT the Republicans learned from their losses and if they want to gain more seats and the Presidency, they will listen and have.You allege that once I hit the "real world" I will look at things different.Perhaps you should step back and realize how over cynical you are? I am not naive, I can be quite the cynic but I know where to draw the line.

I could be wrong but I do believe things will be different on the part of the GOP, you will see a different house under them this time.Not because I think they are all(some are but not all) patriots etc but they want to stay in power, well that is motivation enough to listen to the people and I believe they will this time.Took the losses in 2006 mid terms and actually watching someone like Obama win the Presidency for most Republicans to "get it" I could be wrong and if I am, I will admit to it later.


As said, the Dems just don't get it, this was a referendum on Obama and the Dem's agenda and it was soundly rejected by the people.However, instead of listening they are going to just pretend it was ignorance on the voter's part etc which really shows just how out of touch Obama, Pelosi etc are.You say it was "just the mid terms" but congressional elections are a big deal.Obama was only able to pass the crap he has the past couple years because of the majority, without it, it changes his options.Your "just the mid terms" comment really shows your lack of knowledge about how the American government works.

My hope is that some moderating forces in the Dem party will take over and save what was once a decent party that truly was on the side of the regular person and not ran by a far Left ideology that just pisses on the Constitution, try to legalize illegal aliens, and blame America for everything. I am sure they will stay stubborn and it won't hit home for them until their precious Barry loses in 2012, perhaps then they will come out of denial, we shall see.

Bubblehead1980 11-13-10 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1534833)
B-b-b-but it's different this time!


Oh it will, no more Pelosi running things:yeah:

krashkart 11-13-10 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1534906)
Oh it will, no more Pelosi running things:yeah:

No more Pelosi, just some other twit. :haha:

Bubblehead1980 11-13-10 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1534837)
It will be. John Boehner's tears have magical properties that will cleanse the impurities found within the Legislative Branch of government.


You know, why poke such fun a John Boehner? Like him or dislike him the man was happy.The guy came from very little and has lived the American dream.Perhaps it all hit him at once, the man is going to be the next speaker of the house so was overwhelmed and shed some tears.Why assume it is crocodile tears? I dislike this term but don't be a "hater" :arrgh!:

Takeda Shingen 11-13-10 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1534909)
You know, why poke such fun a John Boehner? Like him or dislike him the man was happy.The guy came from very little and has lived the American dream.Perhaps it all hit him at once, the man is going to be the next speaker of the house so was overwhelmed and shed some tears.Why assume it is crocodile tears? I dislike this term but don't be a "hater" :arrgh!:

If Nancy Pelosi had teared up like that four years ago, you'd have been all over her. Why does Boehner get a pass? Cornball is cornball, regardless of the letter after the name.

Bubblehead1980 11-13-10 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1534916)
If Nancy Pelosi had teared up like that four years ago, you'd have been all over her. Why does Boehner get a pass? Cornball is cornball, regardless of the letter after the name.


I agree cornball but have to understand what it means to that person.Honestly, if I were in his position can't say I would not be a little emotional.

Well to me it would be different, Pelosi did not exactly have many challenges coming up to her position since her father was in Congress, husband is wealthy and being from SF and it's "tolerance", she has not had a serious challenge to her seat in years bc the kooks in SF love her.Boehner on other hand made his own way and most interesting fact is he did it without having debt, he is and has stayed debt free.I remember Diane Sawyer pointing that out during her post election interview with him.The cynic factor is at play which makes many assume he was doing it as a ploy, you have a guy who literally lived the "American Dream" and was overcome by emotion.

I agree cornball BUT seems a few have suggested it was croc tears and that is incorrect.

tater 11-13-10 06:00 PM

Seemed real when I saw it. Didn't really think about ti one way or another. Pelosi as minority leader would be a gift that keeps giving, frankly.

Bubblehead1980 11-13-10 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tater (Post 1534931)
Seemed real when I saw it. Didn't really think about ti one way or another. Pelosi as minority leader would be a gift that keeps giving, frankly.

I agree it was real and actually think he may turn out to be a good speaker.Pelosi just needs to fade away, she likes the limelight too much(even though she is horrible on camera) and is a true believer Leftist like Obama, she wants to be in on things, in her mind most people in America are with her LOL. True she will be a gift as minority leader BUT she just needs to retire and have no say so on national issues, she has proven what an idiot and ideologue she is, time for Nancy to go home to SF and argue with the voices in her head.

mookiemookie 11-13-10 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1534966)
and is a true believer

Oh lawdy the irony...

Tribesman 11-13-10 07:36 PM

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Oh lawdy the irony...
He just doesn't get it.

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I am plenty of aware of how politics works BUT the Republicans learned from their losses and if they want to gain more seats and the Presidency, they will listen and have
Same rubbish as is spouted after every election which funnily enough is in tune with the same rubbish they spout during every election.

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You say it was "just the mid terms" but congressional elections are a big deal.
Mid terms are mid terms , they are just the same deal as they are every cycle which is why they are just the mid terms which is why there is the expression "just the mid terms"

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a far Left ideology
Bubble, if you think the D party are far left you really havn't the faintest idea what a far left ideology is.

Sailor Steve 11-13-10 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1534811)
It been almost two weeks from the mid terms and you still don't get that its just the mid terms, yet even if it was the main elections you still end up with just a bunch of muppets.

There is no "just" about it. Congressional elections are held every two years. Representatives only serve for two years. Senators serve for six, and 1/3 of them are elected every two years.

The only reason the term "mid-term" is used is that they don't coincide with the presidential election.

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980
I am plenty of aware of how politics works BUT the Republicans learned from their losses and if they want to gain more seats and the Presidency, they will listen and have.

That is exactly what the hard-core right were saying in 1994. Those of us who really aren't indoctrinated say "we'll see".

tater 11-13-10 10:32 PM

The current crop of dems are indeed "far left" by US standards. The moderates were only moderate because they were in more conservative districts, and they just got creamed, so there are almost none left.

How they rate compared to politics abroad... I could not possibly care less.

The midterms here were a referendum on the Obama administration, as they are on any administration. The results are typically negative. The reason is that Americans prefer the center. This election put things back in "normal" territory, no super majorities, separation of power.

As it should be. Sad we had a supermajority screw things up in the interim.


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