What do you guys think about the west bank barrier
 

do you think that it is Berlin wall 2.0?
or is it great wall 2.0?
Personally, i think its a good idea. since it works. and when was Israel ever afraid of public opinion?

"works" as defined by those on which side of it?..

Great wall. Both are designed to keep people out whereas the Berlin wall was designed to keep people in.

This.

Cheaper, and costs fewer lives (even enemy lives) than the offensive military alternative.

I think they should keep building it till it surrounds the middle east... then they should fill it with water...

:O:

Hell i've been saying that about New York for years! :O:

Upstate, Downstate, or NYC? :O::O:

Besides I live on a hill :yeah:

Don't mind the wall, but the route taken could be better!

Yeah, that's sort of what I'm getting at. The wall is not a bad idea, it's just the fact that it's a very unilateral solution for a two-way problem. Otherwise hey, let's face it, they would need something to keep them apart even in the best of possible scenarios here.

Some weeks ago there was a major essay in one of the international newspapers I use to skim over, showing statistics how illegal border crossings by Palestinian terrorists have dramatically declined and the number of terror attacks inside Israel also. That was what the wall was build for by intention. And it works - better than was hoped.

It does not compare to the Berlin wall, which had a totally different purpose. The Berlin wall was a prison wall. The Palestinian wall is a protection wall.

If someone wants to build a wall then they should only build it on land that is theirs.

Its an ill conceived idea, as it was originally built to try and stop suicide bombers getting into Israeli territory, but now its an excuse for Israel to expand their own territory and completely scuppering any chance of a peace deal in the middle east.

Here we go...

1000 page thread :rotfl2:

its basically the same thing thats between the US - Mex border

LOL :DL

thanks guys, i needed this for an essay

Nah, most of the board has him on ignore. :yep:

Should France give itself back to the Neanderthals? If someone crops up claiming to be a pre-Roman tribalist, should they get ownership of England back (or the rest of Europe)?

Every nation on earth exists because they knocked someone over the head and took it from them at some level. The jews predate Islam (or Christianity), so they get it... or is there a statute of limitations? Islam took their territory at sword-point, too, after all. Whoever owned something 75 years ago gets it, perhaps? Not 74 years or 76, but 75. Or maybe 83 years? 112? Or do the Native Americans get rights too? How about we push it back to 1491? Hmmm. Where does it end?

Given that the "Palestinians" (there was never such a state before it was invented, and the real palestinian state already exists, it's called "Jordan") sided (and raised troops for) the Nazis, punishing them post ww2 seems pretty reasonable. You side with Nazis, well, you'll have your borders dictated to you—hard cheese for you.

Your argument is that they sided with the Nazi's? I'm pretty sure the Palestinians had millions of combat troops in German uniforms in Russia right?

I have heard so pretty loose arguments both for and against the Palestinians but this takes the record!

Even if they did have a pro German opinion it was probably more to do with England's control over the middle east and the old saying any enemy of my enemy is my friend.

But your argument that they sided with the Nazi's is about as relevent as saying the Russian's, English, French, Norwegians, etc sided with the Nazi's because thousands of them fought for the Reich.

Then the Finns and the Swiss should expect to be seeing coalition forces up close and personal soon, right?