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tater 09-29-10 01:44 PM

Cross your fingers
 
My neighbor is missing.

Damnit.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=11754535

Hope Rich and Carol are found OK.

Sailor Steve 09-29-10 01:45 PM

Fingers crossed. :sunny:

Takeda Shingen 09-29-10 01:47 PM

Here's hoping for the best.

tater 09-30-10 12:32 PM

Day two, and nothing. Looking pretty grim. Ugh.

The Third Man 09-30-10 12:38 PM

My understanding was that the missing baloon was hydrogen filled. You know where that is going.

Quote:

try to see who can fly the farthest from a set point on a maximum of about 1,000 cubic meters (35,300 cubic feet) of gas.

tater 09-30-10 12:43 PM

Yeah, H2.

if it ruptured during the storm at alt... OTOH, the ELT never went off, which is odd. Rich is pretty calm, you'd think if it got really ugly he'd try to put it down (they have survival suits, a raft, etc). This makes me sick. Saw his truck in the driveway earlier, made me sad. (he likes doing this stuff, but I feel sad for his wife and 2 kids (one goes to school with my daughter in 1st grade)).

SteamWake 09-30-10 12:47 PM

Sad news sory to hear this I hope they are found.

You will never get me up in a flying thing that you cant steer.

tater 09-30-10 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1506334)
Sad news sory to hear this I hope they are found.

You will never get me up in a flying thing that you cant steer.

I've been up, myself, but only over albuquerque (which is dangerous enough). I don't know how actually dangerous gas ballooning is in terms of deaths per seat mile, etc. It might well be safer than driving, but the lack of control is pretty scary.

The Third Man 09-30-10 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tater (Post 1506332)
Yeah, H2.

if it ruptured during the storm at alt... OTOH, the ELT never went off, which is odd. Rich is pretty calm, you'd think if it got really ugly he'd try to put it down (they have survival suits, a raft, etc). This makes me sick. Saw his truck in the driveway earlier, made me sad. (he likes doing this stuff, but I feel sad for his wife and 2 kids (one goes to school with my daughter in 1st grade)).

I don't place putting down outside the relm of possibility. I don't know how these challenges are conducted, but were there other balloons in the area? I can't see other balloons getting too far ahead or behind the missing craft. If they go solo, what did the gondola look like? If he put down in a controlled manor the ELT wouldn't engage, and he may not have had time to manually engage the ELT. Any electrical charge could have set off a conflagration, and sink the gondola before any reaction.

Jimbuna 09-30-10 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tater (Post 1506332)
Yeah, H2.

if it ruptured during the storm at alt... OTOH, the ELT never went off, which is odd. Rich is pretty calm, you'd think if it got really ugly he'd try to put it down (they have survival suits, a raft, etc). This makes me sick. Saw his truck in the driveway earlier, made me sad. (he likes doing this stuff, but I feel sad for his wife and 2 kids (one goes to school with my daughter in 1st grade)).

Crikey!!....that's so sickening :nope:

Hope there may yet be a positive outcome.

The Third Man 09-30-10 01:03 PM

Garth Sonnenberg of Albuquerque, a friend of Abruzzo's, said Wednesday that he had heard that the balloonists had problems with their radio throughout the flight. "We're hoping that it's a good possibility that it's just a radio problem," he said.

tater 09-30-10 01:08 PM

No other balloons nearby, they diverge rather remarkably (winds aloft at different speeds).

2 people aboard, and the gondola is pretty light. Rich's helium gondola is tiny, made of tubular Al and nylon. This one might have been more like a hot air balloon one (wicker).

tater 09-30-10 01:11 PM

Might be, hence my fingers crossed. That said, being totally incommunicado for so long when they have sat and cell phones... he'd have to know after the storm etc that everyone would worry.

FIREWALL 09-30-10 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Third Man (Post 1506328)
My understanding was that the missing baloon was hydrogen filled. You know where that is going.

Mind showing me anywhere in article where Hydrogen is mentioned.

tater 09-30-10 01:51 PM

It is indeed an H2 race.

http://www.gordonbennett2010.com/sys...Approved_0.pdf

The Third Man 09-30-10 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL (Post 1506391)
Mind showing me anywhere in article where Hydrogen is mentioned.

In respect for the missing I will give you a break, this time. But research beyond the posted arcticle can help you understand the situation in the future.

tater 09-30-10 07:37 PM

Some of the links might well not mention the gas used (since it is often Helium instead).

Many links have other specifically wrong information as well that I saw. One of the best stories I found was on the BBC.

Gerald 09-30-10 10:06 PM

Do you have any new,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tater (Post 1506629)
Some of the links might well not mention the gas used (since it is often Helium instead).

Many links have other specifically wrong information as well that I saw. One of the best stories I found was on the BBC.

information on what happened?

tater 09-30-10 10:09 PM

No the wrong stuff was background. One story didn't mention that his dad was on Double Eagle (both) and crossed the Atlantic (or that Rich did as well).

This has me really depressed, actually.

Gerald 09-30-10 10:15 PM

I can imagine, I'm sorry that it currently is just so


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