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Why all the Obama hatred?
It seems to me the deep, visceral hatred of Obama by some people is out of all proportion to what he's done and tried to do. I'm pretty sure I know why, but do any of you have any further theories?
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Heh. I've plenty of popcorn. :)
I have a theory that the economy being as it is has people stressed out enough that we have no other recourse but to blame the administration. Add to that a deep-seated resentment and mistrust for the government that has built up over the last eight or nine years. I think people are just plain fed up, regardless of who they vote for. Who better to blame than the guy in charge? :hmmm: |
1. Many Republicans take it as a natural rule that Republicans should win elections for the presidency. If they don't, it is a very deep offence, hitting them at their very basic self-understanding.
2. No matter whether he realised his plans or not, many of his very plans themselves are so unfamiliar and distant from what Americans are used to define as "American political goals" that this is perceived as Obama setting himself outside an "American" context. 3. The high heap of bills and debts Obama has collected on his desktop, does not make him many friends. The Fed is powerless by now. just printing always new more money, is no solution. The debts of the Us already were a disaster before Obama - but he additionally contributed substantially to their total ammount. 4. But all that does not create the stimuli he promised and hoped for when he introduced his spending frenzy. No economic spring. No job miracle. Instead new dark clouds at the horizon, coming closer. 5. His foreign policy changes back and forth between lacking orientation and lacking realism, and heavily biased islamophilia. And 6.), maybe the most general but still most important point: he has risen so high and so many expectations that he now necessarily falls even deeper. If you raise so stellar expecations, you must fail to meet them necessarily, and then the disappointment necessarily is the bigger. Obama's misery is pretty much self-made, I think. And I think it is FUBAR. Upcoming elections for congress most likely will show it. I think the Dems will suffer dearly. |
Hate is a strong word.
Dislike may be more appropriate. Personally I dislike what Obama represents. 1. Overwhelmingly condescending stature toward his opposition. 2. He is a socialist who insists that the government can run my life better than I can. 3. He is a welfare president who would sell out 260 million Americans to address the needs of 40 million Americans. 4. His ram it down our throat, hurry up and get it passed before anyone notices the BS approach to the legislative process. 5. General disagreement with his stance on virtually all the issues facing our nation. (not all... Virtually all) 6. His foriegn policy as skybird pointed out is too far a radical departure from the last several years for a lot of Americans to swallow. I could go on and on. |
@TVM
you say you have a feeling why. Since your finger is apparently so tightly placed upon the pulse of America, perhaps you could share your opinion? |
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So its pretty much a given that they dislike Obama -who is more of a leftist than say Clinton was. Just depends on how you are wired. I personally cant stand the likes of Bush and Cheney... and Sarah Palin scares the hell out of me too. So its not hard for me to understand their point of view - its simply the reverse of my own, thats all. |
Yet, I never really disapproved of Clinton myself.
I think Obama has his fair share of supporters here at subsim. |
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I'd just rather all the hate was confined to one topic instead of spreading out like a weed across the entire damn General Topics forum. Then again, I guess things would get too quiet except for the odd anti-Muslim thread although they've dried up a fair bit since the Avon Lady left. |
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:O: I think we all know why people hate him...
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/9825/obamap.jpg |
I seem to recall that during the 2003 debates over the Iraq war, there were many unkind words said about President Bush as well, goes with the job I would guess.
Americans love to exercise their First Amendment rights...:D |
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Simply put its not the man its his agenda.
I dont 'hate' him any more than I do say Pelosi or Reed. Please quit trying to paint conservatives as racisist bigots. Thats it in a nutshell. |
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Well, for one thing, looking from outside the US it is painfully apparent that American politics is very partisan in nature. That tends to make politics very divisive, and disturbing from the point of view of most of the rest of the Western world - I can't think of many other places where politics is this polarizing. Obama is a perfect example aligned with the far side of one of the two parties, and that makes him a perfect target for the other side, so that's about it.
Frankly, I think the anti-Obama sentiment was a lot worse around election times. Otherwise, eh, as much as I'm well over on the left side, I don't really approve of Obama and never was particularly optimistic for him. A lot of my American friends were excited for him winning, and I told them to wait a couple of years and see. Now a couple of years later, I'm content to have proven that Obama is both relatively weak in terms of his actual position and capacity to make positive change, while also pushing through a lot of his politics through means that don't exactly make him look good. Honestly, he's proven himself to be what I saw in him all along - a Chicago politician. I certainly prefer him quite a bit to the Bush administration, but that's about the best I can say for him. I do hope that the heat stops being aimed so much at his persona - a lot of things leveled against him by conservatives is just populist gobbledygook that only further serves to deepen partisan divisions and distract from real social and economic issues that neither side, so far, has shown any good potential to solve. |
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Take a look at the Beehive beauty shop :sunny: (from 03:15 to 06:30) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Do0-fWVY9I |
Well he's better then having McCain as president thats for sure, and he is definitely better then the very prospect of having that idiot Palin as president.
However... Republicans, Democrats, Liberals, Conservatives, moderates, radicals... they all suck. |
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