Gunny Hartman must be rolling over in his grave
 

no good can come from this...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/31/us...1&ref=politics

I'm sure the Russians and Chinese are having a good laugh over this. :shifty:

This wouldn't be an issue if we didn't have so many fat kids.

Wait wouldent we have less fat kids if this wasent an issue? :haha:

Gunny who? Ft Jackson is an Army post. No Gunnery Sergeants anywhere.

Actually I've been reading up on the new Army PT program and it actually is a much better method for getting someone in shape than doing just pushups, situps and long runs.

I was gonna say, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the Chinese are doing Tai Chi as part of the their PT routine. And probably have been since, like, forever. :O:

Not sure if these Russian Recruits were laughing... :down:

Gunny Hartman:

http://www.celluloidheroreviews.com/...l-jacket-1.jpg


I doubt he would care much for Pilates.

The message I see is since american kids are now too fat and out of shape to train as their fathers and grand-fathers did going back to WW2, let's make basic training easier! no more sit ups, no more long runs.

Thats not how you make an army ready to fight, that's a recipe for disaster.

I'd say that's probably dedovschina - hazing - and not training. And those kids are probably draftees who couldn't get a waiver. Talk about a hellish situation.

Tougher does not mean better. It is entirely possible that other exercises which seem easier may be more effective at attaining the desired results.

That's the intention. The new regimen has lots of sprinting and agility exercises. The program is "scientifically" designed to train the body for the movements and stresses that it will encounter in combat.

The long distance running they did in my day for example never seemed, to me at least, to be an especially suitable combat training aid. Sure it improved ones wind and endurance but it also caused a lot of leg, foot and lower back problems.

In the age of mechanized and aerial troop transport/rescue it's not the speed in which you can cover 10 miles, but rather the speed that you can make a 100 foot dash across an enemy fire swept street that's more important.

Given the advances in sports sciences over the past 10 years, I'm not surprised at the revamp. If you can get a better result with something seemingly less demanding, then I"m all for it. The results are the things that need to be focussed on, not the individual excersises.

Holy ****, the world is changing!
Other than my pointless trolling I agree with August on this matter. I served in the Estonian Defense Forces as a recon infantryman with the old training regiment whick is part of the reason I somewhat ruined my left knee, right now they are revamping things here as well along the same lines. In combat, the fact that I can run for 20 miles, then do 100 pushups and stitups does not really mater, there simply are better ways to build up your body and mind to meet the requirements of combat.

Don't worry they aren't doing away with physical preparedness they are just doing it differently. Instead of long runs there doing sprints (with full gear I read somewhere) and so on. They are just cutting down on injuries and are smartening up on what works and whats needed.

I think the real question here is, what does this do for your war face?

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g5...ed/Warface.gif

And does it meet Gunny Duck's requirements?

Those fat kids would make great "shock" troops! just roll them down a hill.

No, use fatties to designate targets, just pour something combustible on them, light em on fire, yell out the target as usual, but add marking target with tracer and let the fatty run towards it. Much easier to see than 5.56 tracers. Life expectancy of the so called firefly troopers is quite low though.

Cute. But certainly doesn't show the impact of young men entering a new world which could mean their deaths, like the original.

On the contrary what the US doing is closely watched and pondered upon, and only then frowned if it was effective or laughed silently if not. I think they're still watching this.

Who knows it could be a new form of soldier hands to hands fighting skill training. Don't you watch Russian Spetsnaz throwing people without touching them or just with a gentle touch. I think the system is called Javelin. No big deal for me here as I grew up watching similar actions being done by civilian practicing traditional martial arts here. I even took lesson too there was a time I could hold someone from moving forward without touching them, lift their arm without touching it and repel back or throw them out of balance without ever touching them or just with a slight touch....it was fun...first lesson was knowing how to fall properly considering the routine.... Training must be routine and I lost appetite meh me being kid.

I still remember seeing my then tutor a 60 year old Chinese master being punched in the stomach many many times by an 18 year old friend of mine who was big in size as a demonstration and he didn't feel a thing and his body was as solid as metal. He could also repel people from behind the wall or throw them to the ground then swirl them around.....and he was 60 then.

Advanced Aikido also utilizes this technique as far as I know at least as I watched it from tv.

heck after reading the article it doesn't take Chinese think tank or Russia's analyst to come to the conclusion


:har:

Maybe sumo wrestling could be of some value to the now rejected too obese recruits like checkpoint guard :haha:

Yay wimpy generation make handicraft not war! Or "Words may kill longer but hurts a lot worse"


[look at own tummy hhmmm ok that may need some work]

??? Like this.......
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Not exactly but almost . . . . :D

It's called systema actually after a second look

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYq8E...eature=related

It's common here. There's no mumbo jumbo in it. It's real.