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STEED 07-13-10 11:48 AM

A Speech Every American High School Principal Should Give
 
Got this off another forum, as there are so many Americans here what do you think of it?

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0710/prager071310.php3

Looks like a good kick in the teeth to political correctness to me.

Jimbuna 07-13-10 11:52 AM

Quite a speech....and one I fear will be impossible to enforce in this day and age.

Never mind America, we could do with some of this in the UK in one or two areas :DL

GoldenRivet 07-13-10 11:55 AM

lost me at "I could not care less"

:nope:

LOL... so you do care at least a little? ;)

but seriously, my thought as an American is, as much as I wish such a speech would be made... i think it would only result in a great number of new School Principal job openings around the nation. Its THAT far gone down the rabbit hole already that i fear there is no recovery.

Moeceefus 07-13-10 11:57 AM

I like it. :yeah: It's like John Lennon's ideal school. Imagine that.

Sailor Steve 07-13-10 12:00 PM

Quote:

i think it would only result in a great number of new School Principal job openings around the nation
Hence the wish that every principal would make it. Then there wouldn't be anyone to fill those new openings.

Good speech.

GoldenRivet 07-13-10 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1443213)
Hence the wish that every principal would make it. Then there wouldn't be anyone to fill those new openings.

Good speech.

agreed on the good speech

disagreed on the filling of vacancies.

most any given teacher at any school at any given time has his or her eyes cast on occupying that space behind the principal's desk.

not all mind you.

just most.

tater 07-13-10 12:38 PM

The overall point of meritocracy and E pluribus unum is certainly a good one.

Modern PC hold up a standard of "out of many, many." Bah, humbug!

Bort 07-13-10 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1443206)
lost me at "I could not care less"

:nope:

LOL... so you do care at least a little? ;)

Actually, the way he said "I could not care less" is quite correct. Saying that he could not care less is equivalent to saying that there is no way he could care any less, therefore he does not care at all.

Sorry to correct you, but people saying "I could care less" is one of my biggest pet peeves.

Maybe this page can explain it better than I: The Grammar Vandal: I couldn't care less.

Takeda Shingen 07-13-10 01:37 PM

It is an interesting view that extracting political thought from the school would involve injecting an opposing political philosophy.

GoldenRivet 07-13-10 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bort (Post 1443272)
Actually, the way he said "I could not care less" is quite correct. Saying that he could not care less is equivalent to saying that there is no way he could care any less, therefore he does not care at all.

Sorry to correct you, but people saying "I could care less" is one of my biggest pet peeves.

Maybe this page can explain it better than I: The Grammar Vandal: I couldn't care less.

ahh yes. I jumped the gun :oops: thats the correct form... what i get for reading thoroughly :doh: (sorry)

i thought i had him!

Just got through watching this when i read that... http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1937402 and i was on a bit of a mission hahaha

Sailor Steve 07-13-10 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1443228)
agreed on the good speech

disagreed on the filling of vacancies.

most any given teacher at any school at any given time has his or her eyes cast on occupying that space behind the principal's desk.

not all mind you.

just most.

My point wasn't to seriously consider the issue. My point was that if every principal and teacher felt that way there wouldn't be anyone left to feel otherwise.

Wishful thinking on my part, not a claim on the reality.

GoldenRivet 07-13-10 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1443300)
My point wasn't to seriously consider the issue. My point was that if every principal and teacher felt that way there wouldn't be anyone left to feel otherwise.

Wishful thinking on my part, not a claim on the reality.

Oh i understand completely.

Im right there with you on that wishful thinking :salute:

tater 07-13-10 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1443282)
It is an interesting view that extracting political thought from the school would involve injecting an opposing political philosophy.

Seems to me that the (roughly speaking) political philosophy proposed is "American." Are you suggesting that the other is non-American?

The idea of the "celebration of difference" is, I'd argue, distinctly un-american. The differences that States recognized back in the days of the Founders were basically STATE differences. They didn't lump people otherwise, that's the beauty of our system.

I have to say, I hate "cultural diversity," I see it as a force for Balkanization. I much prefer the good ole "melting pot" concept. For me cultural diversity means a chorizo burrito for breakfast (is there anything better (this coming from a bacon lover)?), sushi for lunch, and a moroccan tagine for dinner. Anything past that is paying too much attention to arbitrary nonsense.

Sailor Steve 07-13-10 02:03 PM

I believe in multiculturalism in the sense that everyone should honor their heritage and never forget where they came from. The Greek and Italian festivals here in Salt Lake each year are something to behold, or should I say something to taste?

But I agree that isolating peoples backgrounds with the purpose of remaining apart from all others is a dangerous game. A friend of mine remembers when he learned to swear in his grandfather's native language. Grampa gave him the end of a cane and shouted "I didn't come to America so you could speak Italian!"

Takeda Shingen 07-13-10 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tater (Post 1443310)
Seems to me that the (roughly speaking) political philosophy proposed is "American." Are you suggesting that the other is non-American?

The idea of the "celebration of difference" is, I'd argue, distinctly un-american. The differences that States recognized back in the days of the Founders were basically STATE differences. They didn't lump people otherwise, that's the beauty of our system.

I have to say, I hate "cultural diversity," I see it as a force for Balkanization. I much prefer the good ole "melting pot" concept. For me cultural diversity means a chorizo burrito for breakfast (is there anything better (this coming from a bacon lover)?), sushi for lunch, and a moroccan tagine for dinner. Anything past that is paying too much attention to arbitrary nonsense.

I did not use the words 'American', 'America', 'United' or 'States'. I simply content myself in pointing out that his speech, and your speech, is as political as the speech he was seeking to eliminate. Anything else is as a strawman.

tater 07-13-10 02:08 PM

It's impossible to be apolitical in many senses.

My own take is that regional, internal distinctions are more reasonable than pigeon-holing people based on nonsense like skin color, or flavor of surname.

thorn69 07-13-10 02:21 PM

Guys, this speech never happened! If it did, I'd be surprised if the guy hadn't been fired for making it. Every single Black, Hispanic, Jew, Female, and Momma's Boy attending that school would have run home and complained to their parents about it and they would have turned around and called their local news station and school board to complain that the principal was a member of the KKK, Aryan Brotherhood, Neo-Nazi, MenareBetterThanWomen.com, etc. etc. etc.

Why?

Because they want to be victims. They will never accept equality with white men in their lives because it's so much easier to play a victim and get all the free hand outs. Why be foolish and accept equality with white males when that's not going to make it any easier for you to get a job or a promotion at work or extra points to attend a pristine college?

It would be like a person with handicapped plates choosing to park in the back of the parking lot at Walmart because they know they're really not handicapped to the place they can't walk on their own. Nobody knows they can walk just fine accept them. So they continue to "milk" the sympathy pass they've been given by society because the perks of being a victim are just too good to ever give up!

Even had a black female Police Officer at work tell me this. She knows she's got it good. Management is scared to death of the EEO and Union that protects the hell out of her. She shows up late to shift almost every night and misses more work than anybody else on the force. She's a disgrace and several of us have called her out on it. She just laughs and tells us that our ancestors shouldn't have ever enslaved hers and because they did, she gets the hook-ups! Lucky b####!!!

Sailor Steve 07-13-10 02:29 PM

The author never said it was given. He said every teacher and principal should give it.

Every black? What about Walter E. Williams, or the woman in that Tea party video (who also comes under your "female" category?

Every Hispanic? What about Alberto Gonzales

And perhaps you didn't notice that this was taken from a Jewish newspaper.

thorn69 07-13-10 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1443354)
The author never said it was given. He said every teacher and principal should give it.

Every black? What about Walter E. Williams, or the woman in that Tea party video (who also comes under your "female" category?

Every Hispanic? What about Alberto Gonzales

And perhaps you didn't notice that the author himself seems to be Jewish, and certainly his publisher is.

Sure, I generalized a bit there, but then again, we're talking about teenagers here also. You know, the ones that have had it the hardest in life considering they were chained down to slave ships bound for this Godforsaken land that they're now being forced to learn in. And now you want them to learn equally with whitey? You must be out of your mind! It will NEVER happen.


Btw, it's normal to generalize when the majority is taken into consideration. I mean, I've never had a wreck in my life, or a speeding ticket, but at age 16 I was paying heavy for auto-insurance for all the other reckless male drivers on the roadways! Didn't get a break until I turned 21 and got married. Face it, everybody gets generalized! And I am not going to dispute that there are always exceptions to the rule. Of course those are "exceptions" meaning a tiny few and certainly not the majority. This author was an "exception" to the rule. That or he was just trying to rub the "Keep dreaming! It's never going to happen whitey" into our faces. But, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was just an "exception" to the rule. There are *some* minorities that see that the perks given to their protected group are also the sanctions holding white males back, and truly feel that so long as any gender or race is being sanctioned, there will never be any true equality in this country. Right now all we have is pseudo-competition going on.

Ducimus 07-13-10 03:40 PM

I loved that speech. Pity's its not real, nor anyone to have the balls to stand and deliver.


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