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oscar19681 06-17-10 03:56 PM

Silent failure 5. Losing my optimism.
 
Well let me just start of saying that silent hunter 5 has potential. I sometimes have fun with it when fully modded. And i even had some fun with it out of the box when ignored all the issues. But since the day this "sim" came out i and many other hardcore players have been finding a way to turn it into the thing we really wanted it to be in the first place. But for about a month now i,ve been pumping mods into sh-5 and it does work to some extent. But i just cant help it to find myself passing some sh-5 time for other good sims simply because it does not feel complete and unfinished. Sure we have all these mods but it takes such a massive s.h.i.tload of mods to make it into the sim i want it to be that i get CTD,s now. I cant blame the modders because they are doing some amazing work out there. For example i finally configured sh-5 into what i would call "close to sh-3 GWX. But after having 5 CTD,S in minutes i just could not help thinking that i just wasted another 40 minutes and i didnt even get near my objective zone. I mean when i have to leave port 5 times because of crashes it drains you right out of the pleasure! Its things like this that make me not toucht the game for another 2 to 3 weeks. It just suck the fun right out of the whole immersion and experience! Sure sh-3 and sh-4 had its issues but sh-5 seems to be such a bad programmed peace of software that its almost impossible to be overlooked! I remember when sh-3 was stuffed with mods it crashed on me from time to time but it was acceptable. Now when sh-5 is fully modded it crashed so i make multiple saves to make my way up from there. Then i save and the save itself makes the game crash only to find out that my other failsave,s have dissapeared allong with it. I,m pretty easy with stuff like this normally but i just cant help thinking that i,m seriously loosing my optimism for sh-5. Not because of the gameplay but simply its f.u.c.k.e.d at the core. And when something is f.u.c.k.e.d at the core its pretty much a sinking ship. Not to mention that UBI has waved its a.s.s goodbye and leave the modders to work hard to sort there s.h.i.t out. Thanks ubi! You gone to fat this time!

mookiemookie 06-17-10 04:01 PM

You should probably edit out the curse words in your post.

karamazovnew 06-17-10 04:11 PM

Well, it's times like these that really make me wanna hug Lurker_hlb. SH3 for me is just a bit too buggy with corrupted saves so it's up to Sh4+OM+OMEGU to fill the spot that SH5 has left empty.

Dimitrius07 06-17-10 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1421630)
You should probably edit out the curse words in your post.

He censored cursed words, whats the problem? Don`t tell me its a first time you see something like this.

In other words - my cat can run the company better ........

Ducimus 06-17-10 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by karamazovnew (Post 1421636)
Well, it's times like these that really make me wanna hug Lurker_hlb. SH3 for me is just a bit too buggy with corrupted saves so it's up to Sh4+OM+OMEGU to fill the spot that SH5 has left empty.


Lurker has my admiration. He's done an incredible job, and taken on more large projects then i ever had the patience for. People really should check out his work. The problem is alot of people have horse blinders on. They only want to see uboats, and not really give anything else a try. So, SH4 just doesn't even make it on the radar for many.

oscar19681 06-17-10 04:47 PM

Surely i might just not give up on sh-5 . But for now the bad just outweighs the good. Maybe some complete package in a supermod will clear things up. But for now i will just watch on the sideline to see where sh-5 go,s

krashkart 06-17-10 04:52 PM

I don't remember which game it was, but I had so much trouble just getting the dang thing to run long enough to enjoy the gameplay that I finally gave up on it. Pretty frustrating when that happens. It was patched later on and ran just fine thereafter. Hopefully that happens for SH5.

Dowly 06-17-10 05:07 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMH5_pyiFg0

Karasunx 06-17-10 05:20 PM

I'm sorry Oscar, that truly sucks. I know how even one CTD can ruin an entire night. I had the same issues with Enigma: Rising Tide and have never touched the game since. It's obvious that everyone has made their minds up about SH5 and either enjoy it or can't stand it. Like so many have said, just give it time and either UBI or the Modders will make it into the game everyone expects. Otherwise, hopefully UBI won't pull the franchise and we can hope for a better SH6 with something for everyone. I think it'd be great if they went back to the Pacific campaign and just alternated every game. It'd be awesome to have the technology behind SH5 with a Gato class sub.

krashkart 06-17-10 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1421672)

The ending is classic. :rock:

Gorshkov 06-17-10 05:36 PM

Unfortunately Oscar19681 is right! SH5 was released as alpha-beta version which means it is much more buggy and unfinished than SH3 and SH4 were in time of their release. In return this means I am not sure SH5 can be acceptably fixed by modders alone. If UBI Soft really abandons SH5 its future is rather dark, I think.
SH5 developer should make available one-two patches bug-fixing vanilla game to a point it will be playable with most annoying hard-coded shortcomings removed and basic features fully functional. Only such SH5 version could become a basis for creation of large super-mods.

longam 06-17-10 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krashkart (Post 1421685)
The ending is classic. :rock:

Cruise control would have saved her life :haha:

Task Force 06-17-10 06:42 PM

The big question for me is? Is SH5s Dev team still employed, with UBIs current condition, I dont know.

longam 06-17-10 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Task Force (Post 1421733)
The big question for me is? Is SH5s Dev team still employed, with UBIs current condition, I dont know.

I'm sure most of these dev companies are on contract terms.

Task Force 06-17-10 06:53 PM

yea, I guess they would be.

mookiemookie 06-17-10 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimitrius07 (Post 1421638)
He censored cursed words, whats the problem? Don`t tell me its a first time you see something like this.

In other words - my cat can run the company better that those Ubi$oft c@nts :yeah: :rock:.

No, I have no problem with curse words or seeing them, or as my friends will attest - using them.

But, at the risk of sounding pedantic:

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_new_faq_item_language

Please use language that you would use around your mother. No vulgarities, obscenities, hate speech, or foul language. Do not use *******ing w*rds with aster*cks, that's the same thing as vulgar languge. Express yourself with respect to others.


scratch81 06-17-10 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1421756)
No, I have no problem with curse words or seeing them, or as my friends will attest - using them.

But, at the risk of sounding pedantic:

I agree, i too, am not offended with vulgarity or overall general naughtiness, but the rules are the rules.

ps-I can't help but to find your quote of the *** editing issue a bit ironic, even though you've done the same with your sig. not trying to start anything or be disrespectful to anyone in any manner, merely making an observation:)

Reece 06-17-10 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scratch81 (Post 1421822)
I agree, i too, am not offended with vulgarity or overall general naughtiness, but the rules are the rules.

ps-I can't help but to find your quote of the *** editing issue a bit ironic, even though you've done the same with your sig. not trying to start anything or be disrespectful to anyone in any manner, merely making an observation:)

Hee Hee!! That was a nice catch Scratch81!!:D

thorn69 06-17-10 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scratch81 (Post 1421822)
I agree, i too, am not offended with vulgarity or overall general naughtiness, but the rules are the rules.

ps-I can't help but to find your quote of the *** editing issue a bit ironic, even though you've done the same with your sig. not trying to start anything or be disrespectful to anyone in any manner, merely making an observation:)

Rules were meant to be broken! If people stopped breaking rules then there would be a lot of people out of work and the bad guys would starve. Just think of all the cops and correctional officers out there that pay taxes to house, feed, and medicate the offenders they work so hard to apprehend and detain! Those poor bad guys would go hungry for God's sake!

I mean, we've got to support the United Socialist States of America (USSA), am I right? I mean, Herr Obama would be disappointed if the big bad policeman stopped an "illegal" immigrant and asked him for some bloody identification! I mean sheesh, we're only supposed to be IDing US citizens after all! Every cop has built-in nationality radar didn't you know?! How dare a cop do such a thing to an "illegal" immigrant on his way to a dope house! :doh:

And you think Herr Obama would approve of punishing those that use profanity? Get real! He encourages that too. He said, "I want to know whose a.s.s. to kick" on national television with Matt Lauer for every man, woman, and child in the world to hear! The great one can't be wrong and thinks the only people who need any punishment or restraint are those that enforce rules and regulations!

I'm a cop, so I would know. I used to do my job (the way you used to expect me to) but now that's a bad thing so I don't. Drive through my 65 m.p.h zone at 100+mph and see if I stop you. Not gonna happen. I want to keep my job after all. Times are tough and jobs are scarce! I'm going to just sit there and eat my jelly donuts, drink my coffee, and play a few rounds of Doodle Jump on my Iphone instead. Call me to respond to a domestic scene and I will be 5-0... Meaning I will be about 50 minutes late, so stay strong little lady. I don't want to get there early because I might have a brain fart and resort to my old ways and get slapped with a police brutality suit when I light your abusive "illegal" immigrant boyfriend up like a Christmas tree with 100,00 volts of government issued light saber! Just don't be crazy like 90% of the women out there and stab me in the Kevlar when I'm putting your hot tamale in the back of my patrol car! Otherwise I will light you up as well and yes, you're gonna have a bad hair day! :yep:

Anyways, I think it's unethical for y'all to be asking Neal and the mods on here to do any enforcing. Learn to be forgiving and accepting of those who break "the old rules". It's going to take time for the rules to be changed but count on Obama making that a priority once he's done robbing the wealthy and the poor of all their money first. Hes loves to break the rules and what fun would that be if he already had the rules taken away? :doh:

tonschk 06-17-10 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1421643)
Lurker has my admiration. He's done an incredible job, and taken on more large projects then i ever had the patience for. People really should check out his work. The problem is alot of people have horse blinders on. They only want to see uboats, and not really give anything else a try. So, SH4 just doesn't even make it on the radar for many.

:yeah: I Fully agree with you about this :up:

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