Why send your children to private school?
 

Because of people like this woman:

http://m.gawker.com/5540483/meet-the...book-whitewash

I guess there's a reason Rice is the only elite university in Texas.

A liberal showing concearn over 're-writing' history.... interesting.

:shifty: Really? After all these years........:doh:

oh noz! run for the hills.

Someone should let her spend time polish the big number one. Thus, she can't talk rubbish at the same time...

Seriously, that was some of the most noncense, I have ever read... :doh:

The pendulem swings!

It's been pulled too far Left for decades. Peiple have seen the failure, and the results of socialy indoctrinating their children with an agenda that is extreme left.
Now it will swing to the extreme right.

It would be nice if one day this pendulem could stop in the middle, at a place called Truth!

My father always told me that if I learned to read well I could pick my own teacher, to teach me any subject in the world, at a great learning center called The Library.
If "education" continues to embrace social indoctrination (left or right) this may very well be a viable alternative for some.

Pfft, libraries are just government intrusion in the traditional free-book-lending market. Pareto efficiency my arse.

If libraries fail, there are always book stores.

Wow a graduate of Pat Robertsons university for fruitcakes being in charge of education.
I wonder what the textbooks will say about seismic activity. Is it caused by abortions, pagans or homosexuality?
I do like her adviser from the Wallkbuilders though, America must have biblical law and being a good fire and brimstone type he of course advocates the good old OT law:up:

Funny, while I agree with your pendulum theory, I think the pendulum has been pulled too far right:lol:
Compared to Dutch politics even Obama is relatively rightist.

I think you should never let religion control education. Let people make up their own minds about what god they should believe in, if any. And definitely don't educate it at public schools. There are people there who've got different beliefs, you know:doh:

But she wants the government (state school system) to push this agenda on to children.

That's rich. :har:

Hey, Ms "minimal government intrusion" how about the schools just concentrate on traditional education standards and let the parents handle the social education? Ok?

Well, there it is.

One more reason why I would not like to go back to Texas. :nope:

Here we are united.

Purging the schools of Social Indoctrination towards the present agenda IS a good idë.
Replacing the existing Social Indoctrination agenda with a new Social Indoctrination agenda is NOT a good idë. It only serves to replace one wrong with another wrong.

That was a realy good post, Platapus.

Jesus freaks like the lady in question in the linked article belong in Private schools. Not a public one. If the school is public, it is state run, and we have this little thing called "seperation of church and state" here in the US, that should be maintained..

Furthermore, if i had a kid, and wanted him to have evangelical horse**** ramrooded down his gullet, i'll send them to a private school.

Ducimus - I still challenge you - or anyone else - to find this "seperation of church and state" anywhere in the constitution...

I don't have to. It's implied by the 1st amendment. No i'm not going to get into a constitutional debate with you. No you are NOT going to change my mind. So don't even try. My hatred for evangical ram rodding runs VERY deep, starting from childhood, and has risen to a degree that defies description. I have about as much tolerance and respect for those hypocritical bastards as they have for other people, which is to say, NONE.

Does it have to be in the constitution?

Our country is defined by more than just the constitution.

Some of the historical rewrites mentioned..... They CANT be serious. No way something this blatant can be real, can it? Are they really that deranged?

Seriously, taking a look at a couple that offer specfics...

- Slave trade to Atlantic triangular trade? what a GROSS euphism and avoidance of the real topic there. They were slaves right? We were trading em right?

- Civil Rights Movement to "unrealistic expectations of equal outcomes". What kind of white pride inspired horsecrap is this? Nevermind we have a black president now, minor detail!


This article is probably more to incite folks like myself who have a real deep seeded dislike of evangelical doings .

Funny - I see no implication of a SEPERATION of church and state implied...

Too many people love to try to say this is a freedom FROM religion - which it is not - it is the freedom OF religion. If your religion is that you want to worship the almighty spaghetti monster - you can. But freedom OF religion - and the FREE EXERCISE thereof means that there cannot be a prohibition of religion in government - or else your limiting that free exercise. That does not mean that government can establish a religion - aka force you to conform to one - but it also should not limit anyone's ability to practice theirs as they see fit provided it does not infringe on another persons rights.

Also - its amazing how people get all worked up over an article.... would really be wise for people to look at how the "GAWKER" even describes itself....

"Gossip from Manhattan and the Beltway to Hollywood and the Valley."

Just so you all can understand:

Gossip is defined by dictionary.com as "idle talk or rumor" and "hearsay"....
In other words, you have nothing but a lot of unsubstantiated and non-referenced rubbish thrown out by a left wing rumor mill with the intent to incite outrage....

Boy did some of ya'll fall for that....

Haplo, I challenge you, or anyone, to find any mention of church, God or Christ in the constitution.

No, the Constitution does not directly use that phrase, but the man behind it, the "Father of the Constitution" and author of the First Amendment, James Madison, certainly believed it.

"The civil Government, though bereft of everything like an associated hierarchy, possesses the requisite stability, and performs its functions with complete success, whilst the number, the industry, and the morality of the priesthood, and the devotion of the people, have been manifestly increased by the total separation of the church from the State."
-Letter to Robert Walsh, Mar. 2, 1819

"Strongly guarded as is the separation between religion and & Gov't in the Constitution of the United States the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history."
-Detached Memoranda, circa 1820

"Every new and successful example, therefore, of a perfect separation between the ecclesiastical and civil matters, is of importance; and I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in showing that religion and Government will both exist in greater purity the less they are mixed together.
-Letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

The only mention of religion within the body of the Constitution is Article VI, Section 3, which says "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

The founders were very aware of the domination religion had held over every government in Europe. Most of the people who had come here seeking "religious freedom" had then enforced intolerance of anyone who disagreed, even the legendary Pilgrims. Roger Williams was banished from Massachussetts by those same Puritans for preaching religious freedom.

But I have a personal question. Let's assume for argument's sake that you are right. There is now no separation of Church and State. What does that mean to you? What changes will you make?

I'm curious.

And if so which "Church" would that exactly be?

Roman Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant flavor #1 , Protestant flavor #2, ... Protestant flavor #57, ...

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