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Susexx 04-15-10 02:16 PM

Victory Day
 
On May, 8-9th in my country the Victory Day (the end of the Great Patriotic War and the Second World War end in Europe) is celebrated. For the first time armies of allies will participate in parade on Red Square (the USA, England etc.). Interestingly, and except Russia this day somewhere celebrate? Write, very interestingly.

Oberon 04-15-10 02:23 PM

No celebrations here (that I'm aware of) but I am looking forward to seeing this years parade through Red Square.

http://www.armybase.us/wp-content/up...may-9-2008.jpg

jaxa 04-15-10 02:30 PM

You will see company of Polish army in parade on Red Square. We had fourth army during WW2 (after Soviet Union, USA and Great Britain).

When we were Warsaw Pact member Poland celebrated Victory Day same time as Soviet Union. After 1989 we celebrate VD one day earlier, like USA, Great Britain and rest countries except Russia.

Susexx 04-15-10 02:31 PM

For the first time will show complexes SA-22 Greyhound, very much I wish to see.

Susexx 04-15-10 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxa (Post 1360946)
You will see company of Polish army in parade on Red Square. We had fourth army during WW2 (after Soviet Union, USA and Great Britain).

When we were Warsaw Pact member Poland celebrated Victory Day same time as Soviet Union. After 1989 we celebrate VD one day earlier, like USA, Great Britain and rest countries except Russia.

I in the childhood very much loved a film "4 tankmen and a dog". Heard that it like in Poland have forbidden. Strange, kind film from the childhood. Just about army friendship between Russian and Poles.

Sailor Steve 04-15-10 02:39 PM

We don't have any celebrations here that I know of (Utah, USA), but I like to commemorate all the 'end of war' days myself.

Your parade sounds pretty cool.:rock:

Oberon 04-15-10 02:42 PM

Oooh, Pantsir! I'll have to keep an eye out for that. Spasibo! :up:

Dowly 04-15-10 02:45 PM

Nope, no parades here (what a surprise :O:).

Why people around the world don't celebrate the day? My take is that, and I mean no offence, you russians have your own history book that is very different from the truth. Again, no offence mean't, but you don't have to dig too deep to realise just how much WWII propaganda there still is going on over there.

DarkFish 04-15-10 02:52 PM

well here in the Netherlands it's May 5th, but we celebrate it nonetheless:woot:
http://www.depers.nl/UserFiles/Image...laggen.425.jpg

jaxa 04-15-10 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Susexx (Post 1360956)
I in the childhood very much loved a film "4 tankmen and a dog". Heard that it like in Poland have forbidden. Strange, kind film from the childhood. Just about army friendship between Russian and Poles.

Tri tankisty, Gruzin and sobaka? Forbidden? No, it's not true. It could be seen some weeks ago in Polish public television. I have it on DVD - one of the best Polish movies about WW2 for children. It was made many years ago as propaganda tv serial, but knowing this you can see it like adventure movie.
Did you hear about "Stake bigger than life"? It was Polish tv serial about Hans Kloss, agent of Polish intelligency working as Abwehra officer behind front lines. Similar to your Stirlitz :DL Fully fictional of course.

Susexx 04-15-10 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1360974)
Nope, no parades here (what a surprise :O:).

Why people around the world don't celebrate the day? My take is that, and I mean no offence, you russians have your own history book that is very different from the truth. Again, no offence mean't, but you don't have to dig too deep to realise just how much WWII propaganda there still is going on over there.

I do not think that the majority of Finns wished to be at war with Soviet Union again. A characteristic example - Lappish war (Lapin sota). Though from all countries of allies of Germany of Finland has carried most. Greetings to northern neighbours. :D :woot:

Happy Times 04-15-10 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1360974)
Nope, no parades here (what a surprise :O:).

Why people around the world don't celebrate the day? My take is that, and I mean no offence, you russians have your own history book that is very different from the truth. Again, no offence mean't, but you don't have to dig too deep to realise just how much WWII propaganda there still is going on over there.

Like that occupation parade in our former second largest city Viipuri.
To commemorate the war against "Finnish fascists that occupied the ancient Russian city of Viborg".

Happy May Day!:woot:

jaxa 04-15-10 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFish (Post 1360984)
well here in the Netherlands it's May 5th, but we celebrate it nonetheless:woot:
http://www.depers.nl/UserFiles/Image...laggen.425.jpg

DarkFish, do you know something about Polish 1st Armoured Division and general Maczek or Polish 1st Parachute Brigade and general Sosabowski? Gen. Maczek's soldiers liberated part of Netherland from German occupation and gen. Sosabowski's soldiers fought in Arnhem.

Susexx 04-15-10 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times (Post 1360990)
Like that occupation parade in our former second largest city Viipuri.
To commemorate the war against "Finnish fascists that occupied the ancient Russian city of Viborg".

Happy May Day!:woot:

Here where ideal reconciliation it between Finns and Russian. Mannerheim the former imperial general, and that that was on friendly terms with the mad efreitor, well so hoped for Blitzkrieg.

Dowly 04-15-10 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Susexx (Post 1360989)
I do not think that the majority of Finns wished to be at war with Soviet Union again.

We never wanted to be at war with you guys. :O: It's just... you know... you attacked us, not much of a choice than to defend ourselves. :)

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Originally Posted by Happy Times (Post 1360990)
Like that occupation parade in our former second largest city Viipuri.
To commemorate the war against "Finnish fascists that occupied the ancient Russian city of Viborg".

:haha:

Happy Times 04-15-10 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Susexx (Post 1360989)
I do not think that the majority of Finns wished to be at war with Soviet Union again. A characteristic example - Lappish war (Lapin sota). Though from all countries of allies of Germany of Finland has carried most. Greetings to northern neighbours. :D :woot:

Im not sure is that a threat or some twisted way of belittleling.

The Chuhnas dont celebrate this victory of totalitarianism over half of Europe.

We celebrate our grandparents for keeping us free of these parties.

Susexx 04-15-10 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxa (Post 1360992)
DarkFish, do you know something about Polish 1st Armoured Division and general Maczek or Polish 1st Parachute Brigade and general Sosabowski? Gen. Maczek's soldiers liberated part of Netherland from German occupation and gen. Sosabowski's soldiers fought in Arnhem.

There is an excellent film about it "A Bridge Too Far" with S. Connery and Anthony Hopkins

Susexx 04-15-10 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Times (Post 1361006)
Im not sure is that a threat or some twisted way of belittleling.

The Chuhnas dont celebrate this victory of totalitarianism over half of Europe.

We celebrate our grandparents for keeping us free of these parties.

I.e. you wish to tell that the Victory Day is a totalitarianism victory? And as thousand victims in Arnhem and Normandy, at storm of Berlin, Warsaw. Thousand Poles, Russian, Englishmen, Germans, Yugoslavs I do not think that they died for the sake of a policy...

Happy Times 04-15-10 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Susexx (Post 1361003)
Here where ideal reconciliation it between Finns and Russian. Mannerheim the former imperial general, and that that was on friendly terms with the mad efreitor, well so hoped for Blitzkrieg.

We can be civil, we can do business but there will never be reconciliation until you give something concrete back.

This is the overwhelming majority view in Finland, order a poll if you dont believe me.

Im not holding you personally responsible but your government celebrates and promotes an attitude and interpretation that Finnish governments or people will never accept.

Happy Times 04-15-10 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Susexx (Post 1361017)
I.e. you wish to tell that the Victory Day is a totalitarianism victory?

Yes.


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