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kranz 04-10-10 03:15 AM
plane crash near Smolensk, Polish president on board
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8612825.stm

the total number of passengers is unknown, some sources claim that 132 ppl were on board.

unbelievable....

VonHesse 04-10-10 03:43 AM
Words are just that, but my heart and prayers go out to your entire nation tonight.

Schroeder 04-10-10 04:53 AM
Very sad tragedy. My thoughts are with the victims.

But maybe something positive can come from that. With Kazcynski gone the relationship between Poland and Germany might become what it should have been for the last two decades: One of trust and friendship.

Jimbuna 04-10-10 05:26 AM
What a sad and terrible tragedy :nope:

MaciejK 04-10-10 06:52 AM
I never supported Lech Kaczynski but he was the President of my country. All the people onboard the plane had families, friends. Great tragedy:(

SteamWake 04-10-10 08:12 AM
my prayers go out to the friends and familys of the deceased.

Feuer Frei! 04-10-10 08:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1354609)
Has there been any rumblings about this not being an accident?
One of the flight recorders has recently been retrieved from the crash site.
P.S. My condolences to all involved.

Feuer Frei! 04-10-10 08:35 AM
Just heard on BBC World that Vladimir Putin will personally head the investigations into the plane crash!
I may be out of the loop here perhaps but, why would HE be personally heading this investigation?

Nicolas 04-10-10 08:54 AM
This is terrible...
My sympathy to the polish.

If Putin wants to be in charge is problably he wants to show that for Russia or him this was very significative. I see it that way.

CaptainHaplo 04-10-10 09:10 AM
To all those who lost someone dear, you have my condolences. To the nation of Poland, having lost a leader, you have my sympathy.

Perhaps all can remember that no matter your "political" view, every person on that plane was held in someone's heart, and that the loss causes pain. Take a moment to share that pain and send a little love to those this tragedy has personally impacted without concern for the rest - there will be time for the rest later.

As for Russia investigating - it happened within their borders. Let us give those who have lost a day before we start with conspiracy theories, eh?

August 04-10-10 09:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo (Post 1354667)
As for Russia investigating - it happened within their borders. Let us give those who have lost a day before we start with conspiracy theories, eh?
Or at least put them in their own thread. My condolences to the Polish people.

Feuer Frei! 04-10-10 09:14 AM
My apologies.

tater 04-10-10 09:18 AM
Condolences to the Poles here, and to the families of the victims.

Storm87 04-10-10 09:24 AM
Now we know the exact number of casualities - 96 (88 passengers and 8 crew members.) No one survived. Tu-154M crashed during 4th attempt to land. It hit the trees in heavy fog, few hundred meters away from the airfield. So a mistake of the pilot and bad weather conditions are most probably cause.

In crash died our president, Lech Kaczyński, first lady Maria, along with 12 members of parlament, 2 senators, 3 deputy ministers, and many others parlament and government highly officials.

Also 3 persons from presidential staff, 9 priests (most of them were chaplains), 6 army generals, 15 WWII combatants and 8 secret service guards. :(


Here in Poland, we all (no matter of our political preferences) regreat that loss. Irreplaceable, extraordinary persons died there. :cry: :cry:


(sorry for bad english)

STEED 04-10-10 09:35 AM
A black day for Poland.

Onkel Neal 04-10-10 10:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Storm87 (Post 1354685)
Now we know the exact number of casualities - 96 (88 passengers and 8 crew members.) No one survived. Tu-154M crashed during 4th attempt to land. It hit the trees in heavy fog, few hundred meters away from the airfield. So a mistake of the pilot and bad weather conditions are most probably cause.

In crash died our president, Lech Kaczyński, first lady Maria, along with 12 members of parlament, 2 senators, 3 deputy ministers, and many others parlament and government highly officials.

Also 3 persons from presidential staff, 9 priests (most of them were chaplains), 6 army generals, 15 WWII combatants and 8 secret service guards. :(


Here in Poland, we all (no matter of our political preferences) regreat that loss. Irreplaceable, extraordinary persons died there. :cry: :cry:


(sorry for bad english)

Well said. My condolences to your country's loss. This must really be a black day for you. Your friends here share your sorrow, mate. :cry:

Neal

http://www.futureradio.co.uk/files/i...PolandFlag.jpg

tater 04-10-10 10:27 AM
4th attempt to land?

Hard to believe they had no ILS anyplace a President would fly to.

Sad indeed.

Storm87 04-10-10 10:37 AM
This is also enormous tragedy for our military forces... Another one. Just 2 years ago we've lost 16 top commanders of our air forces (and 4 crew members) in C-295M "CASA" crash in Mirosławiec. :cry:

And now actually all army General Staff is gone... We lost today 6 head commanders of all kind of forces. :cry:

lt. gen. BRONISŁAW KWIATKOWSKI (operational forces)
gen. ANDRZEJ BŁASIK (air forces)
gen. TADEUSZ BUK (land forces)
gen. WOJCIECH POTASIŃSKI (special forces)
v. adm. ANDRZEJ KARWETA (navy)
gen. KAZIMIERZ GILARSKI (chief of general staff)

:cry:

Quote:
Originally Posted by tater (Post 1354734)
4th attempt to land?

Hard to believe they had no ILS anyplace a President would fly to.

Sad indeed.
Yes, outdated Smolensk military airfield have no ILS system. :(

tater 04-10-10 10:52 AM
Storm87, what a terrible loss for Poland. Again, my deepest sympathy for your country.

HunterICX 04-10-10 11:05 AM
A sad day for Poland, and to think they where underway to attend to the 70th anniversary of the memorial of Katyn..:(

my thoughts go the the Polish people that lost too much today.http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9577/abnsalute.gif

HunterICX


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