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exponent8246 02-19-10 12:21 PM

Slightly worrying article
 
Hi all,

Ive just had a read of this article which doesnt bode well for the DRM issue!!

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/assass...ews-32813.html


Any comments???:-?

Onkel Neal 02-19-10 12:22 PM

Quote:

Some of you are going to hate this.
Understatement :haha:

Darkreaver1980 02-19-10 12:31 PM

Well, if the new DRM ist allmost not crackable than i will buy it any day

Seafireliv 02-19-10 12:34 PM

Looks like UBI KNEW it would be controversial and went ahead anyway. Their jester must`ve told the boss that everything will be alright and not worry about the `few` rebels who will be upset- Everyone else will buy!

Methinks yonder jester will be losing his head soon.

Hitman 02-19-10 12:34 PM

You know, I think that the best solution for fighting effectively piracy and not bothering legitimate users is easy: Set death penalty for pirating games. Once two or three pirates have gone in front of a firing squad after summary trial, the rest of us will be able to enjoy in peace our games :DL

Onkel Neal 02-19-10 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitman (Post 1273625)
You know, I think that the best solution for fighting effectively piracy and not bothering legitimate users is easy: Set death penalty for pirating games. Once two or three pirates have gone in front of a firing squad after summary trial, the rest of us will be able to enjoy in peace our games :DL


I love you, man :salute:

Even better (because it's legal and such, lol) would be to have the developers make a special pirate copy of the game and have many people release it into the wild. After x number of days, the game erases the hard drive and sends an e-mail to the FBI.

exponent8246 02-19-10 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Hitman
You know, I think that the best solution for fighting effectively piracy and not bothering legitimate users is easy: Set death penalty for pirating games. Once two or three pirates have gone in front of a firing squad after summary trial, the rest of us will be able to enjoy in peace our games


I second that opinion mate!!! Excellent!:yeah:

Heretic 02-19-10 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Seafireliv (Post 1273624)
Looks like UBI KNEW it would be controversial and went ahead anyway. Their jester must`ve told the boss that everything will be alright and not worry about the `few` rebels who will be upset- Everyone else will buy!

Methinks yonder jester will be losing his head soon.

Well of course they knew it would cause a sh*tstorm. I'm sure they have it all planned that just need to stick it out for X weeks or X months and it will all blow over. They've made the calculations and done all the marketing research and focus groups and all the stuff corporations do before they spend a dime on anything. They believe that in the long run, they'll lose less sales to piracy than they'll lose to DRM. Time will tell.

Nisgeis 02-19-10 12:42 PM

All these 'new' articles seem to just quote the original PC Gamer article - are they the only ones given a review copy of AC2 and Settlers VII? Someone else must have one by now.

Platapus 02-19-10 12:47 PM

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The platform requires a permanent Internet connection. We know this choice is controversial but we feel is justified by the gameplay advantages offered by the system and because most PCs are already connected to the Internet.
Has Ubi described what these gameplay advantages are for the customer. Clearly there are advantages for Ubi, but I am not understanding what they mean by gameplay advantages.

I can tolerate the internet connection requirement if it is just something that Ubi, the owners of software, want. But if they are justifying this requirement by claiming that there are some gameplay advantages for ME, I would be interested in knowing what these advantages are.

Nisgeis 02-19-10 12:50 PM

Platapus, the advantage is being able to save your games online, so you can play from any computer. I DO NOT PERSONALLY BELIEVE THIS IS AN ADVANTAGE. The other advantage is that there is no limit to the number of PCs you can install this on, though you can only play on one at a time.

EDIT: Made it REALLY clear that I don't agree that this is an advantage. Sheesh last time I try and answer a factual question!

piri_reis 02-19-10 01:03 PM

Yes, nothing new. The thing is the PCGamer is about AC2, not SH5.
We don't have solid info on how this works, other than Neal showing us some disconnected playtime, which could mean the OSP will differ among different games..

mookiemookie 02-19-10 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis (Post 1273648)
Platapus, the advantage is being able to save your games online, so you can play from any computer. The other advantage is that there is no limit to the number of PCs you can install this on, though you can only play on one at a time.

Which to people like me (with one gaming computer to install and play the game on) means absolutely no benefit at all.

Platapus 02-19-10 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis (Post 1273648)
Platapus, the advantage is being able to save your games online, so you can play from any computer. The other advantage is that there is no limit to the number of PCs you can install this on, though you can only play on one at a time.

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1273670)
Which to people like me (with one gaming computer to install and play the game on) means absolutely no benefit at all.

Me too, but I guess this does qualify as gameplay advantages to someone. :yep:. No requirement that all gameplay advantages have to apply to all gameplayers.

Nisgeis 02-19-10 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1273670)
Which to people like me (with one gaming computer to install and play the game on) means absolutely no benefit at all.

Likewise. I'm just trying to stay calm and balanced this evening :DL.

Nordmann 02-19-10 01:14 PM

I simply loved Ubi's statement, especially the last line.

Quote:

"our goal is to deliver the best gaming experience to our customers, anywhere, anytime."
Anywhere and anytime, as long as you have a net connection.

TDK1044 02-19-10 01:15 PM

If "Piracy" is a slang term for copyright infringement, the unlawful reproduction of the work of another, often for the purpose of re-distribution and profit.......

How is paying $50 for a game, not reproducing or copying it in any shape or form, but instead defeating inappropriate software restrictions designed to force you to play it online instead of on your own computer....how is that piracy?

I do NOT want to open a discussion here on a subject that will get members banned, but I feel that the term Piracy is cast with too wide a net sometimes.

Heretic 02-19-10 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TDK1044 (Post 1273691)
If "Piracy" is a slang term for copyright infringement, the unlawful reproduction of the work of another, often for the purpose of re-distribution and profit.......

How is paying $50 for a game, not reproducing or copying it in any shape or form, but instead defeating inappropriate software restrictions designed to force you to play it online instead of on your own computer....how is that piracy?


I would think the ones sharing the games are guilty of copyright infringement. The ones downloading are guilty of theft, morally if not legally. Your example probably falls under the EULA somehow. It's certainly not theft or copyright infringement, so not piracy.

*edit* and we're probably not allowed to talk about it, in any case.

TDK1044 02-19-10 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Heretic (Post 1273705)
I would think the ones sharing the games are guilty of copyright infringement. The ones downloading are guilty of theft, morally if not legally. Your example probably falls under the EULA somehow. It's certainly not theft or copyright infringement, so not piracy.

*edit* and we're probably not allowed to talk about it, in any case.

Excellent post, Heretic. :)

GREY WOLF 3 02-19-10 02:13 PM

and reported that the games aren't at all friendly towards gamers with shoddy internet connections. "If you get disconnected while playing, you're booted out of the game. All your progress since the last checkpoint or savegame is lost, and your only options are to quit to Windows or wait until you're reconnected," the site reported.

:o"If you get disconnected while playing, you're booted out of the game:haha: I will definitely buy it NOW like sh*t:rotfl2::rotfl2:


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