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FIREWALL 02-17-10 12:24 PM

How Do Pirates Hack a Game ?
 
Don't they have to buy it first so they have something to work with ? :hmmm:

btw I don't want the mechanics of hacking. :nope:

onelifecrisis 02-17-10 12:28 PM

In before PERMABAN :O:

Heretic 02-17-10 12:28 PM

Games get cracked so quickly, I've always wondered if they occasionally get their hands on a review copy.

FIREWALL 02-17-10 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heretic (Post 1270939)
Games get cracked so quickly, I've always wondered if they occasionally get their hands on a review copy.


Thank you Heritic for an intelligent response. :up:

If they get their hands on a Preview copy Ubisoft has dropped the ball imo. :yep:

Nisgeis 02-17-10 12:38 PM

Exactly, everytime a game is available as an illegal download before the game is released, then it's been leaked from the industry. With security like that, the games industry is killing itself and punishing the group of people who couldn't possible have been responsible (the buyers) is even more insane.

Physician heal thyself!

Even if they don't get a preview version (for FREE!!!) they can just borrow one from someone, or even buy it. To them though, the game is the challenge of cracking the game, not the game itself. They do it for the prestige. Anytime you say your copy protection is uncrackable, then... let's just say 'red rag, bull, bull, red rag. How do you do?'

Heretic 02-17-10 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL (Post 1270948)
Thank you Heritic for an intelligent response. :up:

it was purely accidental, I assure you:salute:

Q3ark 02-17-10 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nisgeis (Post 1270959)
Exactly, everytime a game is available as an illegal download before the game is released, then it's been leaked from the industry. With security like that, the games industry is killing itself and punishing the group of people who couldn't possible have been responsible (the buyers) is even more insane.

Physician heal thyself!

Yes you have a valid point there. Perhaps they should start to restrict which review sites get preview copies of games??

Brag 02-17-10 12:53 PM

Climbing on board before blood flows. Wanna watch move, ban or whatever :D

piri_reis 02-17-10 01:00 PM

EDIT: Naa, forget it :D

FIREWALL 02-17-10 01:13 PM

Again I want to thank the ones with intelligent, adult responses. :salute:

@piri Sorry you felt you needed to edit your post.

It was very informative. :yep:

mookiemookie 02-17-10 01:13 PM

Sometimes the games are leaked by people who work in the DVD manufacturing plants.

FIREWALL 02-17-10 01:20 PM

I honestly think it;s going to be the Gameing Community that is someday going to stop Hacker\Pirates and put "Them" out of business.

NeonSamurai 02-17-10 01:25 PM

Main sources are:

- retail (boxed if at all possible rather then download)
- leaked retail (includes retail sources (they get games a day or two before they go on the shelf often), printing/packaging sources, occasionally there is a leak in the game company (such as a disgruntled employee), etc.)

preview/review copies are not generally used as they are not the same as retail and are not "proper" in the scene.


Anyhow I will let this go on for a bit more, just play nice folks and abide by Subsim rules.

Nisgeis 02-17-10 01:31 PM

Oh, I just remembered there was that one case where someone wrote a general virus with the intention of getting it inside Valve. Once inside, it activated (it was completely dorment everywhere else, so was not detected) and started uploading everything inside their network it could to an external source. That was a half finished version of Half Life 2 (I think) though, so not an actual method that someone has used to get their hands on a game disc, more industrial espionage, but it does show the lengths some will go to.

FIREWALL 02-17-10 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeonSamurai (Post 1271040)
Main sources are:

- retail (boxed if at all possible rather then download)
- leaked retail (includes retail sources (they get games a day or two before they go on the shelf often), printing/packaging sources, occasionally there is a leak in the game company (such as a disgruntled employee), etc.)

preview/review copies are not generally used as they are not the same as retail and are not "proper" in the scene.


Anyhow I will let this go on for a bit more, just play nice folks and abide by Subsim rules.

Neon this thread has done just fine except for a couple of posts You should talk to.

Delete the posts that try to derail this thread instead.

Heretic 02-17-10 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL (Post 1271033)
I honestly think it;s going to be the Gameing Community that is someday going to stop Hacker\Pirates and put "Them" out of business.


Expand on this please. I'm interested in your thoughts on how you see it happening

Dowly 02-17-10 02:11 PM

This thread has served it's purpose already. :yep:

Just check Neon's post, that's about all there is to it. I'd say the main supply is someone who works in a game store etc. who gets his hand on to a copy before the street date. :hmmm:

Brag 02-17-10 03:00 PM

Bwa ha ha. This thread was derailed and moved. Full service. Where are we? :o

NeonSamurai 02-17-10 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL (Post 1271081)
Neon this thread has done just fine except for a couple of posts You should talk to.

Delete the posts that try to derail this thread instead.

Well technically I could lock down the entire thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subsim FAQ & Rules
SUBSIM Review has a longstanding policy against software piracy. We do NOT allow discussion or even mention of warez, abandonware, peer-to-peer game swapping, illegal download sites, or rip-off websites. Nothing will get you banned faster than pointing people to illegal software distribution sites. Don't ask for serial numbers, manuals, or cracks. Any admission that you have in your possession illegal software can and usually will result in revocation of your Radio Room forum account. Support computer game programmers buy legally purchasing their work. They have to eat too, you know.

I underlined the relevant point.

Anyhow we generally don't edit or delete posts unless they violate the major rules. If moderators had to clean out OT posts in threads, Neal would need a full time paid staff of several moderators to handle that work load.

ERPP8 02-17-10 04:08 PM

They make so much money selling the copies.
One is nothing.


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