Look whats happening to an UBI-like DRM server
 

I mean the servers used by Cod MW2 players. Shut down this night and morning.

A message just appeared to me minutes ago: "if you try to connect you may loose all your credits and career gains". Scaring.

I mean, not only you cant play (ok sometimes it could happen) but loosing all you have earned in hours of combat, thats completely absurd.

Imagine for a while if this happen to your U-Boat campaign/career ... connect online and loose your offline gains :cry:

I dont say UBI servers will work the same way, but its just a look at what could happen in our future.

Actually, UBI servers seem to have trouble in playing even their own promo clips, as many subsimmers complain each time a new footage gets posted on UBI TV. I wonder how they'll cope with the traffic when SH5, Assasin Creed 2 and Settlers 7 will surface.

I'm positive they will screw up badly with this new OSP scheme. With every new game they release using the OSP they will get so many support calls. Servers will crash, savegames lost, people won't be able to play, etc. etc.

They will abandon the thing before the year is over. :arrgh!:

Yesterday, it took me five or six trys to get to watch the SH5 video.

Servers are famous for failing. Besidesw, I don't need internet to play single player, having to log in is simply stupid

Steam is a fine example why these kind of DRM's just dont work. If there is an maintenance, well, no gaming for you, as happened earlier today as I went to play the AvP3 demo. :stare:

?? I can play all my steam applications in offline mode just fine.

Ubisoft has made the impressive journey from releasing buggy games, to releasing buggy games that can only be played on unreliable servers.

How proud they must be. :)

Anyone here spending $50 for Silent Hunter 5 is out of their mind. Let the all important casual gamers spend their money on it. The game is an arcade game targeted at them.

Simmers should wait at least six to nine months before buying, and only then if the game can be played off line.

Well, call me crazy but since I know I'll still buy it eventually, I'd rather get it now. As a hard-core player in both SH3 and SH4, it's worth 50 bucks just be there from the beginning. I've missed the SH3 and SH4 early eras, I'm not gonna miss this one too. Plus, you all need a good gameplay review to make up your minds :haha:. My only problem is this one: after I buy it, how long can I last without sleep? :o

Depends on the reasons for buying it. I'll buy it. I think it will cost 19.95 like SH3 and SH4, but I'd buy it regardless of the price, to be able to tell anyone else for myself if the game is worth buying or not (like doing a review). If I'm not using/buying SH5, I need strong reasons which I can 100% defend in front of others, I need the reasons to be objective, and they can't be if I don't try it. And I won't be getting it pirated, like many people suggest these days.

Cheers :rock:

To each his own. :)

What would happen with people who makes savegames often ??

I´t could be a side effect , save often in prevention of server crashes , this can overload the server and cause errors... and so again.

A submarine is a bad thing to be linked to a chain , it needs freedom, i Think that Ubi is in a wrong way considering a submarine Game as another action games.
His gameplay is very different , another philosophy ,more strategic than others , and only single moments of slow motion action. it´s not an fast fire, jump and run gameplay. Needs time to make a career and could be a big problem lost careers.

That is actually the best type of boycott....
What we need to show ubi is that:
1. we're not pirates
2. we don't like the idea of being forced to stay online
So, if everybody starts saving and saving and saving and saving and etc etc etc, the servers will crash :up:. Not just SH5 players, all Ubi games should receive such a treatment from their buyers. That would be the most intelligent slap on the wrist...

Stop telling lies, brag. Trenken has told us the internet is 100% reliable, and I believe him.






:har:

If all the simmers waited six to nine months, who is going to be making the mods that the simmers are waiting six to nine months for?

Trenken is a frined of mine
he'll buy stuff anytime
for a nickel or a dime
Trenken is a friend of mine
:haha::haha::haha::haha:

Oh well, how sad that someone can even make those jokes... But a good laugh.

I guess in younger years I also used to be a devils advocate and buy any new sim game on the release day. I though there were laurels for being the first to play. But over the years I became more patient -- consequence of having bought many crappy games that way. In the early days, 5 1/4" disks, prior to the internet age, there was little patching and indeed the games appeared to be perfectly bug free. Think of Aces of the Deep, or Silent Service. Sure less complex, but also much more efficiently programmed and coming with lots of gimmicks.

But I learned, and nowaday I wait at least for 3-6 months after release, skim the forums, check what and how much is patched and in best case wait for a PDF manual to look how many real features have been added.
Taste of the new graphics and effects everyone can get from the screenshot grabs in any gamer forum, and my eyes "saturate" over time. Or in case of SH series, mods like GWX coming out has become a crucial requirement, so I waited a long time, but got a big reward with GWX!!!

Now, I will wait for that with SHV, too, not mentioning the trivial condition that the decision for online-DRM will be reversed...(or wait for the "budget release" without...)

What I'd like to see is some responses from MAJOR active modders, such as the left-over members of the GWX team: Does any team still want do a major mod for SHV, or did you loose your interest irreversibly already? If so, then I revise my decision too...

Some dark part of UBI decided to push their games onto DRM. This decision went round a few meetings where targets were set and deadlines pulled out of the air. The resulting oxymoron of a "project plan" was then delegated to the middle managers who generally interface with the workers, or developers if you will.

Like all similarly "planned" projects it fire fights daily development issues by using short-cuts, effectively suppressing the issues in the short term in the hope that there'll be time to fix them properly later. Of course there is never time to fix them later.

So the project ends up in the classic state of "80% done, 80% to go"....and as the plucked out of air dates can't be shifted by much (that would be tantamount to admitting a flaw in the "project plan"), they decide instead to cut back on functionality and quality.

End result is a game that is deeply flawed. Does this sound familiar ?

UBI's version of DRM will be just like UBI's games, UBI's TV and UBI"s relationship with its customers........it will be, in a word, PANTS!

Alas it is the same for most companies in the world....a group of school kids could do better....in fact they have, many a time.

UG

Since I was veteran MMORPG player, this will happen pretty much everytime when servers crash.

For example, when Everquest 2 started, there were issues like you couldn`t log, server crashes, wrong version of patch uploaded = downtime, etc. So everytime this happens, they need to get old data which are saved every period of time (sometimes they rolled just an hour, sometimes even whole day). It`s called Rollback.

The bad thing here is that you can`t do anything with that since savegames are dependant on their servers.

Of course, EQ2 is MMORPG which works on a different pattern than this UBI online service, but since you posted what happened in "CoD MW2" I suppose it won`t be much different from that...

Well.... Who said that you can save when you want? :haha:
(j/k of course)

+1

Steam is the way of the future IMO.