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cjbeattie 09-09-09 09:01 PM

SH5 a worrying silent hunter 4 add on??
 
Was going through the Silent Hunter 5 new forum and i seen a link to this page...


http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...2&postcount=27

dont get me wrong i love the screen shots of silent hunter 5 and like you guys cant wait for my first patrol but after the messup with the sh3 to sh4 release its worrying when you read they are simply building it from the sh4 game..

cj

THE_MASK 09-09-09 09:05 PM

I am glad its based on sh4 . The modders know the file structure backwards and we get 1st person and better graphics . It will be like going from XP to Vista :arrgh!:

SteamWake 09-09-09 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sober (Post 1169399)
I am glad its based on sh4 . The modders know the file structure backwards and we get 1st person and better graphics . It will be like going from XP to Vista :arrgh!:

Thats a mighty shakey endorsment :haha:

nattydread 09-09-09 09:44 PM

SH4 was gorgeous...im not sure what else they could do superficially to improve. The core mechanics was good and improved upon significantly by mods, so there is a lot of potential there.

With a few graphic improvements and mechanics tweaks, I think SH5 could be another beautifully rendered and well modeled improvement over SH4.

This is one of the few times I can say that Im willing to embrace a build off of the previous release. But they need to use the time and resources saved on true filling out the short comings from SH4.

Do that first and add more eye-candy second.

THE_MASK 09-09-09 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1169407)
Thats a mighty shakey endorsment :haha:

FIRE TORPEDO 3
Dont fire the torpedo unless you know where its from or you have fired it before .
CANCEL
I dont know where this torpedo is from or what it is for.
ALLOW
I know this torpedo and know where its going to .

Arclight 09-09-09 11:07 PM

You have selected "Allow"
_____
| OK |

rik007 09-09-09 11:16 PM

Re-using SH 4 and all the knowledge they build up with SH 3 and 2 is great. It gives them the posibility that they can extent the game with more features. Nattydread I fully agree with you as well as Sober's remark about moddability. At the end we want to have a good simulation and not an arcade shooter.

Sag75 09-09-09 11:18 PM

A fired torpedo may cause damage to other ships.

Fire torpedo?

_____ ____
| Yes | | No |

Kaleun_Endrass 09-10-09 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sag75 (Post 1169436)
A fired torpedo may cause damage to other ships.

Fire torpedo?

_____ ____
| Yes | | No |

I pressed "Yes" and you know what happend?
WO: "Torpedo missed Sir. Torpedo crossed target astern."
KaLeun: "What??? I set TDCs torpedo speed to Fast. Did you do the same to the torpedo?"
WO: "It´s out of my scope. Must be a bug of the Game Engine..."

So beloved devs, if you build your new engine ontop of SH4 then dont even think of releasing SH5 with such bugs. Otherwise I personally come to Romania and kick someones ass. That´s a promise.

JScones 09-10-09 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sober (Post 1169399)
I am glad its based on sh4 . The modders know the file structure backwards and we get 1st person and better graphics . It will be like going from XP to Vista :arrgh!:

Not what I'd consider a convincing argument, lol. ;)

Reece 09-10-09 05:42 AM

I have actually grown to hate SH4,:nope: but that is my own personal view!!:yep:
Thanks God SH5 is "all new code"!!:yeah:

JU_88 09-10-09 07:02 AM

The game is 6 months or so from release, whats done is done.
Judge the SHV on its own merrit when you get to play it.
Worrying about it makes no difference, (and making threats is just being childish)

Jaeger 09-10-09 07:33 AM

I found this sentence from the devs on the ubi forum:


Code:

We’ve changed the water and terrain rendering engine, solving the bugs that prevented this in the previous version and increasing the rendering distance too.
to me, this sounds like they took the old engine with new elements. this gives them more time to think about new features an d more time for beta testing, i think...:rock:

karamazovnew 09-10-09 11:09 AM

Some of you will be eating their own words when the next screenshots are posted :haha:.

"Uhmmm.... Ok, it's not SH4. Definitly not SH4. :o"

I hope it won't be me tho...

AVGWarhawk 09-10-09 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece (Post 1169507)
I have actually grown to hate SH4,:nope: but that is my own personal view!!:yep:
Thanks God SH5 is "all new code"!!:yeah:

Reece, what is not to like about SH4 (ok, no list please :D)? I love SH4. Not just for the PTO but the graphics are excellent. After all the modding the game is great to play. It runs flawlessly on my Vista machine. Anyway, from what I gather a lot of SH4 will be found in SH5.

Webster 09-10-09 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaeger (Post 1169538)
I found this sentence from the devs on the ubi forum:


Code:

We’ve changed the water and terrain rendering engine, solving the bugs that prevented this in the previous version and increasing the rendering distance too.
to me, this sounds like they took the old engine with new elements. this gives them more time to think about new features an d more time for beta testing, i think...:rock:

when i posted this:
Quote:

Originally Posted by WEBSTER (Post 1169055)
i think its because its still very early in the process (almost a year from now until release date)

in my opinion (because its the fastest and the least expensive thing to do) they just dumped sh3 data into sh4 game engine to replace all of the fleetboat stuff and then started the process of working out the kinks and making changes to the game itself.

lets give them the benefit of the doubt that they will be going back over it and "premod" the game to make all the needed improvements they can

i got this reply:
Quote:

Originally Posted by maerean_m (Post 1169145)
You would make a mistake to think that. Basically, there's nothing that was taken from SH3 (which was launched 4 and a half years ago). Everything has been redesigned and things that may look like SH3 (because of the historic background) have been recreated to meet the standards of 2009.


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longam 09-10-09 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus
Will the file structure remain the same or similar to SH3/SH4? Or will the entire directory and file structure be new and the file dependencies, interactions, and variables need to be relearned?
Quote:

Originally Posted by maerean_m
We're building the game on top of SH4, so you'll recognize the structure.
But at least there keeping the file structure.

Sailor Steve 09-10-09 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1169683)
Reece, what is not to like about SH4 (ok, no list please :D)? I love SH4. Not just for the PTO but the graphics are excellent. After all the modding the game is great to play. It runs flawlessly on my Vista machine. Anyway, from what I gather a lot of SH4 will be found in SH5.

Not to mention the vastly superior crew management and overall stability, ease of adding new ships without the horrific loading times, better time compression and the way they changed the radio screen to a pop-up wherever you are. There are things I think could have been done better, and some I think they messed up big-time, but overall it's a great improvement.

Reece 09-10-09 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1169683)
Reece, what is not to like about SH4 (ok, no list please :D)? I love SH4. Not just for the PTO but the graphics are excellent. After all the modding the game is great to play. It runs flawlessly on my Vista machine. Anyway, from what I gather a lot of SH4 will be found in SH5.

Well I had just installed for the fifth time with OM + OMEGA, also tried OM + RSRD, and still has many bugs, I could do some fixes for some and work around for others but the biggest thing is twice the computer reset itself in each version listed above, the second time I ended up with HDD Index errors, so bad that I had to re-ghost my machine, in doing so I lost some of my files, and I only got to play the nav training mission. :damn: So you must understand the frustration, my system is fairly new::hmmm:
AMD Athlon X2 7750 Black Edition
Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe Motherboard
Creative X-fi Xtreme sound
HIS IceQ4 Turbo ATI HD 4850 512mb video card
4mb Kingston ram
Win XP Pro
If I had to try again it would mean a total install again!!:dead:

ETR3(SS) 09-10-09 10:12 PM

Could always be bad parts too. When I built my parents computer a few years back I got a bad board and CPU right outta the box.


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