Any one see a difference???
 

Or is it just me.........LOL

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f..._6-600x447.jpg

or

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...LOHAN/82ba.jpg

Tomi's looks better...:yep:

Well yes, the level of detail Tomi's work is stunning.
But I dont let it detract from the greatness of SHV, for what we have seen, the SHV trailer is also stunning :)
To be fair when was the last time you saw such a detailed scene in any sim or video game?

hmm... let me think abou it... the ship simulator series is the closest...

some of there ships look quite nice.:yep:

but still, they did a good job...

who said that the first screen is final

Isn`t the first the diesel engine compartment and
the second one the electric engine compartment?

But someone was making such a compartiments that
i have seen on the shiv forum.

As the whole boat is modelled. I'm sure the Devs are focusing on being framerate friendly as well as asthetics. I'll take the less detailed version any day, if it means I can smoothly transition through the boat.



Payoff

Yes and keep in mind we dont know how may different sub interiors the Devs need to modle.
They could have not bothered with full interiors at all, knowing that the game would probably still sell well regardless.

TBH Im just saying they deserve to be applauded for their efforts so far (and not LOL'd at.)

first one type vii second one type ii

well... the community can also add more details to the interior... for the people with hispec systems.:yep:

but I still think the devs did a ok job for the ammount of money/manpower they have.

As you can plainly see, UBI has included dynamic shadows. From the screenshots I bet they also use ambient occlusion. Without shadow maps and baked ambient occlusion, a higly detailed interior with thousands of objects, like Tomi's, would literaly sink your pc. Even so, I pray to god that Tomi used render layers and still has a clean version of textures for his interiors. Otherwise we might never see his interior in SH5.

and who is to say, that the interiors won't be modded to people's desires.

I like what the devs have done so far.

Now, I hope they have the correct sounds for the engine room, (not the sound they keep trying to use, which is all wrong). I like the sound Das Boot used because having worked around open tappet engine, they have a definite clickity clack sound, that the Faribanks Morse engines do not.

Also please devs have the hull creak louder and louder the deeper it goes AND not have it mean the sub is taking damage. I missed that from SH3

Apples and oranges.... /shrug

Got a question for you. Can you walk around in Tomi's work?

Can we wait....
 

....until the (hopefully finished) game is out before we start pinging off the walls about small details etc.:timeout:

All of this type of eyecandy stuff means nothing if the gameplay is not worth it.

*hides in cover at embarassment at lack of modeling skills*

Both put my Iron Coffins to shame..

But right now, Tomi's work looks great, but would drag my system to a halt.

UbiSoft is smart, they're using different shaders for theirs, and it's not necessarily the final product. I'm happy that we get the whole interior to ourselves without a bunch of reworking and modeling on the side after the initial game comes out :up:

LOL? :hmmm:

Does this mean EgoApocalypse that you're putting your hand up to be the first to release reworked interiors?

Good luck balancing detail with performance.

One of the first things I'd like to see redone are the floor tiles. We should extend the walls down and make the floors look like grates and see objects below them. Hopefully UBI will allow a "cast shadows" flag on each item. Then adding the miriad of objects in Tomi's interior would be a lot simpler :up:

Of course the detail in Tomi's work is amazing. however considering his highly complimentary opinions of the SHV previews, and his all around good nature, I doubt he would approve of you using his work as a basis to "LOL" at the development team. A very unfounded LOL at that. :nope:

Highbury is spot on there regarding Tomi. :up:
And the devs read this forum, so its really not really nice.
Nobody would compare two examples of modders work in this way out of respect, where is the respect for the Dev team - dont they deserve any?

Agreed.