A life ruined
 

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/28/california.missing.girl/index.html

It's really hard for me to imagine how this must have been for this little girl. In a news report on TV, neighbors described the man who imprisoned her as a "weirdo". No doubt. The shame is that weirdos are not scrutinized more closely.

If that poor woman walked into that courtroom and blew him away.

She would get more time than he'll get. :nope:

Yeah, true.

But not if I was on the jury :03:

It was more than just one life ruined. Her parents after all these years living with this! Their daughter kidnapped all those years ago. Things in the news every day about kids being taken and found dead later. This is what her parents lived with.

How diabolical this was. His wife was involved as well. Talk about screwed in the head. Shame is the probation officers must and should have right to inspect convicted child molestors premises. Computer included. I guess they do not have that right to check all. Unreal this went on for years and know one said a word or noticed anything.

I find this whole story not only disturbing but hard to believe.

I understand she was abducted at age 11 but in this day of 'accessability' internet, cell phones, and on and on how in the hell did she not get word out.

Also "Lived in their back yard" were the neighbors clueless?

I heard an interview with one of the neighbors he said (paraphrasing) "I knew the guy was a weirdo and I saw them in the back yard but I had no idea they had kids there".

Kinda makes you wonder how many other creeps are keeping boys and girls like this. :nope:

:o:stare::nope:

Theres lots of little things like that in the article "Heard kids playing" "Suspected they lived in the tents" "Saw kids & knew he was a perv".

Its a real tragity that could have been avoided.

Way too many.

Recently there was that creep in Austria who kept his daughter in the basement for over two decades. In some Asian and South American areas this kind of stuff is almost common.

Human slavery of any kind is dispicable, but its the worst when it involves children and sex. What really stinks about the whole thing is that all we can do when we catch these perverts is lock them up.

Somehow that doesn't seem like justice to me.

A lot more than many people realise, I fear.

Sometimes society should find it in their hearts to thank inquisitive neighbours instead of automatically condemning them.

A phone call to the local police should always be followed through and any resistance to a brief tour of the house should be viewed with deep suspicion.

I don't agree with that at all. That could easily lead down the path of random government inspections of people's homes.

Enough
 

"Human slavery of any kind is despicable, but its the worst when it involves children and sex. What really stinks about the whole thing is that all we can do when we catch these perverts is lock them up.

Somehow that doesn't seem like justice to me." Castration, is not the death penalty, might make these bastards think ! 19 years in a back yard, w/no chance of escape ??? Only wooden fence ????

Not random, only those who had prior convictions of child molestation and kidnapping... like this guy.

Now that's a punishment I could go for. :salute:

I agree with that. Besides, I thought registered sex offenders (of a certain degree) already had to submit to home inspections, but that's probably a state-to-state thing.

I would just have a problem with blanket inspections on anyone.

Since the case of Natascha Kampusch in Austria three years ago, several such cases like this new one have been revealed in several different western countries. Plus the huge systematic child abuse cases in Belgium, Ireland, England, North America, that made it through the press up and down in past years, and sometimes even involving the church, and parents letting their babies starve to death for carelessness and desinterest, even torturing them to death - many such cases in Germany.

I assume the bitter and sad truth is that child kidnapping and child abuse - random crimes as well as planned crimes and systematic and ongoing, almost business-operation-like mass crimes - just happen again - right now, and in every nation.

It's a huge market out there. - We need more social therapists - not. :dead:

When banning child porno sites on the web gets fought against by providers because they lose the income for leasing services regarding webspace used for displaying that, and even reasonable-minded users put hysteric fears of total censorship of the media over banning such sites (Germany), then something is deeply rotten in our "cultural" climate, and not just in some perverted individuals, but in our society itself, and the ruleset by which it operates. In other words we do not talk about sporadic symptoms, but vital and essential substance rotting from within.

We care so much for all and everything and are deeply alarmed over any possible eventuality that we stun ourselves and freeze in total collective paralysis. With the result of nothing effective getting done. Our ways have become far too complex. we do not master the complexity we let off the chain. So now the beast is eating up ourselves.

If this would ever happen to my daughter. I find the f**ker... I would slowly kill him without a doubt. And his wife would join him next.

I don't give a rats ass about the law when it comes to this kind of crap. Did the law protect her? No.

That's what I would do..

If I didn't make an example of this scumbag I failed as a father to my child.

Look at how many other people he's attacked and attempted to grab. He's a danger and a very sick person.

This is the only justice he needs.

A person thinking he/she can decide while being in a state of aroused emotions, is wrong. In fact, he/she gets decided.

And not only killing them, but doing it intentionally slow and painfull, does not serve "justice" of any kind, but only serves your personal hunger for revenge.

Wanna lower yourself that much - and although not even being personally effected?

Determination in adressing the issue/the offender, is sufficient.

The guy is most likely also a serial killer. They've found several corpses of prostitutes near a place where he used to work. I guess that girl was lucky not to have been killed.

Terrible I just hope the victim has enough strength and courage to finally let of of her ordeal and traumatic experience and live a happy life. When talking this kind of thing the victim is not only suffering from physical abuses but probably gets more psychological abuses too that should not receive less attention.
This kind of ordeal could break a man's spirit or even driving her to the edge of insanity depending on how much abuse she took and how much strength she carried within her.