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GoldenRivet 08-17-09 09:16 PM

Narration / Voice Acting in trailer
 
about the narration and voice acting in the trailer.

it was very clearly spoken english and there have been some complaints about it. ;)

i would like to remind you all...

... if you select the english option in SH3 or SHIV you get that same plane Jane english.

Im sure if you select the "German language option" in SHV you would get the good German voice acting.

they probably used the plane english option as this trailer was aimed at an english speaking audience.

so... dont fret :rock:

Mopy 08-17-09 09:56 PM

Heheh it was odd to hear American voices after being used to hearing German in SH3 for so long. There is a German voiced trailer though:

http://silent-hunter.de.ubi.com/silent-hunter-5/

I'm looking forward to German voices/English subs again :sunny:

Highbury 08-18-09 12:34 AM

I am sure it will have the option to choose as SHIII did.

However, it would be nice if the English itself was at least German accented... I don't know, would just seem better that way.

Ragtag 08-18-09 01:09 AM

German language with english subs. I really hope there are options for changing speech language in the game.

Contact 08-18-09 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1152871)
aimed at an english speaking audience.

Yeah and feeling straight ridiculous. English speaking audience should satisfy reading subtitles instead. Do you think SH3 trailer was made for only german speaking audience ? No it was made because of logical factors and period.

conus00 08-18-09 02:24 AM

^^^
HAHAHAHA, well spoken! I have been living here in the US for almost 10 years, have learned the language and speak it daily but it keeps amazing me how majority of Americans think of an English as a pinnacle of languages, "The World Language" and "the hardest language to learn".

Only about 20 -25% of planet's population speak English as a native or second language.

http://www.asdk12.org/depts/world_la...ages_World.gif

Ragtag 08-18-09 02:40 AM

They aim for the most realistic Silent Hunter game ever. German speech should definatly be in-game imho. Otherwise the immersion will be killed on the spot, at least for me.

danlisa 08-18-09 02:47 AM

For those complaining about the Voice acting, I ask you this:

"How much do you think it costs to hire professional voice actors for games?"

Alot!

For all I care, they could have Mickey Bloody Mouse voice the German crew as long as the money saved is put towards development and bug killing.

conus00 08-18-09 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danlisa (Post 1152991)
For those complaining about the Voice acting, I ask you this:

"How much do you think it costs to hire professional voice actors for games?"

Alot!

For all I care, they could have Mickey Bloody Mouse voice the German crew as long as the money saved is put towards development and bug killing.

Good point. But let me see "more than 1.5 million copies sold." at even underestimated $35 a copy we are at 52.5 million $ made.
They could afford one.... :D
Just kidding.

Melonfish 08-18-09 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conus00 (Post 1152972)
^^^
HAHAHAHA, well spoken! I have been living here in the US for almost 10 years, have learned the language and speak it daily but it keeps amazing me how majority of Americans think of an English as a pinnacle of languages, "The World Language" and "the hardest language to learn".

Only about 20 -25% of planet's population speak English as a native or second language.

http://www.asdk12.org/depts/world_la...ages_World.gif

see the problem i have with charts like that is its data manipulation. in fact it tells you NOTHING of how popular a language it is just how many people that speak it. these are two seperate things.
the prime example would be mandarin chinese. granted over a billion people speak it, but they nearly all live in china!

spanish and portuguese are very popular thanks to south america and english is quite provalent.
however i would deem english as a very easy language to learn compared to others, its well structured and easy to understand. this makes it easy for other countries to learn because generally their language is alot more complicated then english, and it prohibits english speakers from learning other languages as they seem complicated to us (that and we're lazy sometimes)

but yeah back on topic i'd love to see some good german voice acting and english text options on sh5 that would make it wicked methinks, plus my german is getting there nowdays!

Contact 08-18-09 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danlisa (Post 1152991)
For those complaining about the Voice acting, I ask you this:

"How much do you think it costs to hire professional voice actors for games?"

Alot!

For all I care, they could have Mickey Bloody Mouse voice the German crew as long as the money saved is put towards development and bug killing.


Yes a strong decent game requires solid budget, so ? you said nothing new here. But that includes also voice actings. If you could play SH5 with mickey mouse voice that means there's something wrong with you..

danlisa 08-18-09 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Contact (Post 1153045)
Yes a strong decent game requires solid budget, so ? you said nothing new here. But that includes also voice actings. If you could play SH5 with mickey mouse voice that means there's something wrong with you..

Not really, we played SH3 for years with high pitched squeaky crew members.

You know, people are banding around the figure of 1.5 million units sold as if this is some grand number but that is across the whole SH library, that's only 375,000 units per title (given equal sales). Not great for a PC game. The budget given to the Devs by Ubisoft will reflect these sales figures.

I can pretty much assure you that SH5 will not have an adequate budget allowance to cater for accurate and believable voice actors. Voice acting is too much of a financial drain, especially when you are trying to code an accurate sim. Indeed the most accurate and believable voices for any Sim are community created.

Dowly 08-18-09 04:56 AM

I hereby vote that Neal sends a SubSim mug and T-Shirt to all the original cast from Das Boot and a letter ending with "Or else..." so that they would do the voice acting for SHV. :O:

Armistead 08-18-09 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Highbury (Post 1152931)
I am sure it will have the option to choose as SHIII did.

However, it would be nice if the English itself was at least German accented... I don't know, would just seem better that way.


:haha:

Like trying to watch Cruise in Valkerie, almost funny and ruined the movie.

Contact 08-18-09 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danlisa (Post 1153055)
Not really, we played SH3 for years with high pitched squeaky crew members.

You know, people are banding around the figure of 1.5 million units sold as if this is some grand number but that is across the whole SH library, that's only 375,000 units per title (given equal sales). Not great for a PC game. The budget given to the Devs by Ubisoft will reflect these sales figures.

I can pretty much assure you that SH5 will not have an adequate budget allowance to cater for accurate and believable voice actors. Voice acting is too much of a financial drain, especially when you are trying to code an accurate sim. Indeed the most accurate and believable voices for any Sim are community created.

Ok so you know digits. However I still think it is no excuse to leave voice actings behind. I think it is not less important part of the whole work for exitement and immersion factor of the game.
Budget retrenchment in any development state is always causing lower numbers in buy off. But I want to believe UBI had done their homework and planned the budget correctly.

Kapteeni Rantala 08-18-09 05:29 AM

I think people should just forget about this already. There's a German voiced trailer (which sounds just fine), and there will certainly be the option of choosing German language in the game.

So - drop it, already.

Rockin Robbins 08-18-09 06:08 AM

The voice acting is irrelevant. The trailer itself sucks! It reduces a U-Boat captain and crew to a collection of fools who post no lookouts, whose first inkling of an air attack is BOOM!! Then an entire fleet of deadly escorts, previously undetected, of course, descends on them.

They're at 120 meters and urgently, as if going deeper were difficult, captain orders "deeper!" Yikes, this is Das Boot overdramatization and crew retardation all over again. It reduces Silent Hunter to an arcade game.

It's supposed to be a simulation. A simulation where crews post lookouts and planes are sighted in the clear unlimited visibility of day from a distance from which bombing is not possible for a few seconds. Ships are detected by their smoke before they ever pop up over the horizon. U-Boat crews and captains are professionals, not fools!

That's just great: a trailer directed at 13 year olds. Thanks, Ubi, for respecting your players.:down:

I guess we shouldn't be surprised by whatever we find in the game, should we? Why does that trailer not encourage me. I think they should have spoken Pig Latin.

Contact 08-18-09 06:19 AM

I think the trailer was made in order to demonstrate new graphics and life itself inside the u-boat more than point out that this is also simulation :) However yes it looks somelike odd seeing sonarguy at his station listening for noises and next minute task force approaching from not too far away..

Anyway as you shouln't judge the book from it's cover the same goes for the trailer.. :)

Dowly 08-18-09 06:20 AM

Ah, there you are RR. Was waiting when you post your rant here after reading your rant at Ubi forums. :O:

Right, can we just wait to get abit more info from the game before we start slinging mud at them? This is the first trailer after all.

Kapteeni Rantala 08-18-09 06:31 AM

Actually, Dowly summed it up.


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