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Hanzberger 08-09-09 04:25 PM

Pissed off........ctd
 
Why why why why why. died in my last game so rather then start from a point which I was alive, I said, let's be fair and start over.

Started over, shakedown1, shakedown2, 3rd patrol was going great.
Even sank a warship. Made sure I saved it surfaced. came back just now and it ctd right before it comes on. I tried it 2 ways, once thru commander and once without. well probably more then once.
This game is going back to collecting dust real soon.:damn:

Hanzberger 08-09-09 04:28 PM

I'm starting to think its SH3 Commander.

DaveU186 08-09-09 05:48 PM

I noticed an increase myself after I started using SH3 Commander. I just try to get around it by only playing when I have enough time to complete a patrol either without saving, or with only one save.

Had one anyway the other day though, just after sinking a passenger liner and two large merchants in a convoy in 1943. :damn:

Hanzberger 08-09-09 07:43 PM

So do you think we should start the game without SH commander. I tried and it still failed but I am talking about future games.

Should we uninstall commander totally??? any opinions? :stare:

Hanomag 08-09-09 09:45 PM

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ash+to+desktop

4 page post on CTD's..started by yours truly...:cool:

Contact 08-09-09 11:47 PM

Yeah when ctd happens it always sux.. Just got one myself again. For me it ussually happens when on TC I scroll the map, it freezes for a few seconds and then window popsup "We'are sorry for inconvienence blah blah blah" :down:

Sailor Steve 08-10-09 12:03 PM

I've been using Commander since the day it was released, and have never had a problem that I could trace to its doorstep. It works externally and doesn't interfere with mods normally.

Any CTDs I've ever had could invariably be attributed to bad mod combinations or something my video or sound card couldn't handle. If it's only happening when you use Commander then it might be a mod that interferes with one of Commander's functions, but other than that I don't see how it could be.

Contact 08-10-09 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1148372)
I've been using Commander since the day it was released, and have never had a problem that I could trace to its doorstep. It works externally and doesn't interfere with mods normally.

Any CTDs I've ever had could invariably be attributed to bad mod combinations or something my video or sound card couldn't handle. If it's only happening when you use Commander then it might be a mod that interferes with one of Commander's functions, but other than that I don't see how it could be.

As you said, CTDs might happen due to mods incompatibility, but CTD happened on stock sh3 and they are happening with GWX. SH3 commander has nothing to do with ctds at all. I would say this game has been made buggy for crashing to desktop from the very begining because of it's structure rather because of mods..

Jimbuna 08-10-09 01:38 PM

I must say that in my experience SH3 Commander is an extremely sound/stable piece of kit.

The simple fact is the SH3 engine is at best.....temperamental and not always tolerant of changes.

StarLion45 08-10-09 01:43 PM

Nope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Contact (Post 1148382)
As you said, CTDs might happen due to mods incompatibility, but CTD happened on stock sh3 and they are happening with GWX. SH3 commander has nothing to do with ctds at all. I would say this game has been made buggy for crashing to desktop from the very begining because of it's structure rather because of mods..

there you ' re wrong Contact . If you die , and decide that you want to start the patrol you died in , you must never start SH3Cmdr right away , it crashing to desktop at ONCE . YOU MUST START IN THE GWX GAME , OR STOCK sh3 :yep:

Contact 08-10-09 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarLion45 (Post 1148437)
there you ' re wrong Contact . If you die , and decide that you want to start the patrol you died in , you must never start SH3Cmdr right away , it crashing to desktop at ONCE . YOU MUST START IN THE GWX GAME , OR STOCK sh3 :yep:

Even if it's true. This is so useless issue to pay attention at.. I play DiD style anyway. :D

And as long as I'm keeping myself a Fair player, this crashing can be justifiable. You can;t cheat death and reborn :P

Contact 08-11-09 08:51 AM

This might be interesting. After patroling for a while I did a brief testing today, saved my career and started moving nav map quickly and a few seconds latter - CTD happened. I am using Rez Fix, don't know why but I removed it and reloded the game, did the same thing with nav map and it didn't crashed. Could there be a chance that rez fix is causing crashes somehow ? :-?

Jimbuna 08-11-09 09:33 AM

Highly likely.....I play using a 22" flatscreen but don't use the res fix personally.

Contact 08-11-09 09:43 AM

It would be appreciated if somebody else could try to do the same as I did and see if it crashes or not.. Cuz now I'm thinking maybe I am the only one who gets ctd.

danlisa 08-11-09 09:51 AM

SH3 Commander is 100% stable.
GWX is 100% stable.
SH3 Rez Fix SP2 is 100% stable.

PROVIDED you use them as instructed.

What I find amusing about these threads is the lack of details.

OMGZ!!! CTD arggggghhhhh! Does not help!

In an attempt to diagnose the OP's problem.

1) Was this a 100% clean installation of SH3 1.4b and then GWX 3.0?
2) Was the SH3 folder in My Documents deleted?
3) Are you using previous Game save files?
4) Did you install the GWX specific SH3 Commander Files?
5) Did you activate any mods without rolling back Sh3 Commander first?

Seriously, there are lots of areas where you can balls up your game if things are not done correctly.

Contact 08-11-09 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danlisa (Post 1148880)
SH3 Commander is 100% stable.
GWX is 100% stable.
SH3 Rez Fix SP2 is 100% stable.

PROVIDED you use them as instructed.

What I find amusing about these threads is the lack of details.

OMGZ!!! CTD arggggghhhhh! Does not help!

In an attempt to diagnose the OP's problem.

1) Was this a 100% clean installation of SH3 1.4b and then GWX 3.0?
2) Was the SH3 folder in My Documents deleted?
3) Are you using previous Game save files?
4) Did you install the GWX specific SH3 Commander Files?
5) Did you activate any mods without rolling back Sh3 Commander first?

Seriously, there are lots of areas where you can balls up your game if things are not done correctly.

Just don't tell me you never had a CTD yourself, well unless u don't play at all.

Copy from event viewer below.

Faulting application sh3.exe, version 1.4.0.1, faulting module sh3.exe, version 1.4.0.1, fault address 0x00090038.

I redownloaded rez fix just to check if I have the very same version of it and that was true. Since I'm using XP SP3 I use only d3d9.dll and d3d9.cfg files to make a 1280x1024.

Answering your 5 questions:

1. Of course it was clean
2. It was not since after the intallation of sh3 there followed GWX intallation immediatly.
3. Not sure what you mean.
4. Yes, the same you have to do for OLCG2 (I think it's only for salvo torpedo switch numbers to be visible)
5. It's always on AutoRollback.

Now I will be extreme datafull and show you my JSGME stuff:

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/7...pboardz.th.jpg

Now go figure why da hell I'm getting CTDs mister wise arse! :arrgh!:



danlisa 08-11-09 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Contact (Post 1148894)
Just don't tell me you never had a CTD yourself, well unless u don't play at all.

I have never had a CTD using any final release version of GWX, used in conjunction with SH3 Commander and/or the Res Fix.

Plenty of CTD's during development & testing though.

Quote:

Since I'm using XP SP3 I use only d3d9.dll and d3d9.cfg files to make a 1280x1024.
Why? Even using SP3 you need all the Rez Fix files. I have an install under SP3 and all the Rez Fix files are installed and the game is working correctly.

Quote:

Now I will be extreme datafull and show you my JSGME stuff:

Now go figure why da hell I'm getting CTDs mister wise arse! :arrgh!:

I'll do you one better. Disable EVERYTHING that is not an Official GWX Verified Mod and then try your game. As this 'Wise Arse' already stated, GWX and it's MODS are 100% stable. Any instability caused by the addition 3rd party mods is the owners own dumb ass fault.

Contact 08-11-09 11:15 AM

Because the rez fix is working fine with these two files only. You set the desireble resolution in .cfg via notepad and .dll does the rest of a job.

Blame my ignorance but I have no idea why I have to run SP2 Rez fix.bat then ? Or what does SHIII.sdb do ?

TarJak 08-11-09 06:23 PM

I'm with Danlisa on this. The only time I experience CTD's is with the introduction of untested mods on top of my GWX3.0, SH3Commander, Resfix install. I find if I remove said mods, the problems disappears.

I use the method Contact uses for Resfix. DLL installed to SH3 folder, edit the config and make sure that the res is the same as your desktop res. Any differences between the two will cause CTD's.

Contact 08-12-09 01:17 AM

If you say Rez fix is 100% stable then could it be somewhere incompatible with OLCG2 ? Guess no one knows that.. :doh:


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