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SteamWake 08-05-09 09:44 AM

Learjet Liberals
 
Some have mocked that phrase 'Learjet Liberals'.

But here just read this.

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House Orders Up Three Elite Jets
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Last year, lawmakers excoriated the CEOs of the Big Three automakers for traveling to Washington, D.C., by private jet to attend a hearing about a possible bailout of their companies.

But apparently Congress is not philosophically averse to private air travel: At the end of July, the House approved nearly $200 million for the Air Force to buy three elite Gulfstream jets for ferrying top government officials and Members of Congress. The Air Force had asked for one Gulfstream 550 jet (price tag: about $65 million) as part of an ongoing upgrade of its passenger air service.

http://www.rollcall.com/media/37552-1.html

ps; This was part of the 'Defense appropriations' :stare:




pps; Why cant I edit this:(

AVGWarhawk 08-05-09 09:51 AM

Do as I say not as I do. :shifty:

SteamWake 08-05-09 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1145265)
Do as I say not as I do. :shifty:

Please dont bring the healthcare debate into this ;)

AVGWarhawk 08-05-09 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1145301)
Please dont bring the healthcare debate into this ;)

Well, Congress is NOT under the proposed universal program like the rest of the serfs. :88) Do as I say and not as I do!

FIREWALL 08-05-09 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1145333)
Well, Congress is NOT under the proposed universal program like the rest of the serfs. :88) Do as I say and not as I do!


That's US serfs Mister. :stare: :haha::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

TheBrauerHour 08-05-09 12:28 PM

:nope:

Sailor Steve 08-05-09 12:33 PM

Reminds me of the article I read a few weeks ago, in which some congressman chastised bank execs for setting their own salaries.

"Wait a minute, Mr. Congressman. Who is it that votes your pay raises again?"

You need to understand, they're better than the rest of us, or else they wouldn't be Washington lawmakers.

AVGWarhawk 08-05-09 12:35 PM

Do as I say Steve and not as I do! That is how it is in Washington. They live in a different world then you and I. Reality to them is sour creamer for the coffee in the morning. Once that is handled whoever served the sour creamer is fired.

SteamWake 08-05-09 12:41 PM

Now when the politico's are confronted with angry citizens raising valid points they come up with this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

nikimcbee 08-05-09 02:06 PM

I'm hoping for change now; vote these chumps out!:yeah:

SteamWake 08-05-09 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 1145478)
I'm hoping for change now; vote these chumps out!:yeah:

So whos paying you to say that? :|\\

Zachstar 08-05-09 05:59 PM

What is wrong with this? These aircraft will belong to the airforce which has a responsibility to move people around.

We have no idea what kind of modifications will be done to these aircraft so grouping them in with luxury craft CEOs use is very premature.

SteamWake 08-05-09 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar (Post 1145641)
What is wrong with this? These aircraft will belong to the airforce which has a responsibility to move people around.

We have no idea what kind of modifications will be done to these aircraft so grouping them in with luxury craft CEOs use is very premature.

As far as Im concearned they can fly coach. :up:

For cryin out loud.

Zachstar 08-05-09 06:23 PM

Well I don't exactly like the idea of a high name government official flying in the back of the plane. It will only cause a serious disturbance for the airline. Not to mention the security issues.

Thomen 08-05-09 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar (Post 1145656)
Well I don't exactly like the idea of a high name government official flying in the back of the plane. It will only cause a serious disturbance for the airline. Not to mention the security issues.


An Amtrak train was good enough for Joe the Senator. A good example for all those 'high name' officials, I might add.

SteamWake 08-05-09 06:38 PM

Argument of methods of transportation aside.

Dont you think its a rather un appropriate time to be spending this kind of money on this kind of thing. What the Gulfstreams are no loger in vogue?

mookiemookie 08-05-09 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1145396)
Now when the politico's are confronted with angry citizens raising valid points they come up with this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

Amazing...

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Yesterday, Ken Johnson at the Eagle-Tribune in Massachusetts, noticed something fishy going on with the letters to the editor his paper was receiving:
Across Massachusetts, senior citizens are writing letters to newspapers demanding that their representatives in Congress protect a form of health insurance called Medicare Advantage.
At least that’s what newspaper editors are supposed to think.
Some of those seniors are unaware that they have sent any such letters to newspapers. Some of them hadn’t even heard of Medicare Advantage.
“I did not write a letter to the editor. It’s not from me,” said Gloria Gosselin, 75, of Lawrence.
Gosselin’s name was on one of three strikingly similar letters touting the Medicare Advantage program that were sent to The Eagle-Tribune.
It turns out, these letters came from the Dewey Square Group, a Boston-based political marketing and consulting firm, who has been hired by America’s Health Insurance Plans, the insurance industry lobby, to fight against President Obama’s plan to stop subsidizing private insurers through Medicare Advantage.
The Dewey Square Group has been using some extremely deceptive practices to get AHIP’s message out:
A tip-off to the true origin of the letters came when The Eagle-Tribune received a call from a man who turned out to be an intern at the Boston office of the Dewey Square Group, a national political marketing and consulting firm.
The man, who identified himself as Noah, wanted to know if Gloria Gosselin’s letter had been published. Asked what interest he had in the letter, Noah replied that he was Gosselin’s grandson.
Gosselin does not have a grandson named Noah working in Boston. Her only grandson is a student at Central Catholic.

People can be presented with all the hard proof in the world that Obama was born in Hawaii and they cling to their conspiracy theories, but they refuse to believe that Astroturfing exists.


Absolutely amazing.

Aramike 08-05-09 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar (Post 1145656)
Well I don't exactly like the idea of a high name government official flying in the back of the plane. It will only cause a serious disturbance for the airline. Not to mention the security issues.

But we already have billions of dollars in military transports that could do the job.

Aramike 08-05-09 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1145684)
Amazing...

People can be presented with all the hard proof in the world that Obama was born in Hawaii and they cling to their conspiracy theories, but they refuse to believe that Astroturfing exists.


Absolutely amazing.

You know what's ironic?

I find the tactics these consulting firms sometimes use to be outrageous and deplorable - no matter what side they are on.

Now, where's your outrage against ACORN?

It's very difficult for an objective observer to take anyone who's so intellectually ... self-deceiving seriously.

Not to pick on you, but you do seem to be very particular with your outrage.

SteamWake 08-05-09 09:14 PM

For cryin out loud put the damn birth certificate debate aside already.

Even if there is creedance to it it just smacks of sour grapes.

Reminds me of the "Stolen Election" whine.

We were talking about the Politicos buying themselves new jets were we not?


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