Pelosi unable to attend global warming rally...
 

Seems she was snowed in :rotfl:

http://cnsnews.com/public/content/ar...x?RsrcID=44320

Yeah, that's why people tend to call it "climate change" now instead of "global warming." According to the predictions, some places (like the UK) will get a lot cooler even though the planet gets warmer.

New York Times reports "a major cooling of the planet is widely considered inevitable because it is well established that the Northern Hemisphere's climate has been getting cooler since about 1950s."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/13/AR2009021302514.html

This saturday I went to bed and it was 76 F outside with a RH of 82%.

Woke up Sunday morning it was 44 F with RH of 56%.

Now THATS climate change :doh:

Too bad the only answer these nut politicians can come up with is to tax the snot out of us because of the weather outside happens to be warm. Oops I mean cold errr cool with a bit of sun oh whatever.

There used to be a lot of folks in this forum who were quite vocal in their espousing of the global warming theory. We don't hear much from them on the subject anymore.

It must be all that egg on their faces... :yeah:

March 2nd and dumping snow just 15 miles up the hill here. Global Warming? Global Cooling? Climate change? Well, different weather properties from last year. And will probably be a different story next March 2nd.

What Al Gore says...goes...got it?:nope: We are getting warm damn it! Al said so.

Pfft!

"Global warming" indeed!

It's quite chilly out tonight!

What do you say to that, Hansen?

Talking to walls gets tiredsome eventually, my friend. Don Quixote ist best played by others. :|\\

I hear ya. Telling people about the last round of environmental fear mongering back in the '70's seemed to make little impression on those determined to spread it. I just thank God that our leaders at the time refused to give into it and ratify that stupid Kyoto wealth redistribution treaty.

Further proof that there are still some people out there who will believe anything a tree hugger tells them without checking the facts.

-S

I like hugging trees.

You need to look over a much longer time frame to get some prespective (at least 2-3,000,000 years). I'm also aware of the deficiencies of climatic data collection and computer modelling. I've done a lot of fact checking and even managed to get a BSc in palaeoclimatology and palaeoecology.

The fun thing about science is that it progresses through disagreement. I'm sure you could find an eminent scientist to back up whatever claims you want to make, but the consensus in the field is climate change is here, is increasing and it's caused by human actions (but personally I worry more about SOx and CH4 than CO2).

Human actions or human population?

I believe that both will cause significant difficulties in our future, especially the fact our pop. growth rate is doubling. Pop. in 1966 was 3.2 billion, now it is 6.4 (Or something like that), and in 2020 it will be 8.4 billion.

Human actions includes having babies. The populations has doubled in my lifetime.
In itself that's not such a big worry, but when you plot energy and non renewable resource consumption over the same time period it gets pretty scary.

I worked in the environmental field for twenty years and IMHO it's all too little too late. Get used living in the biggest mass extinction event since the Permian (which was bigger than the K/T "seeya later dinosaurs" event).

Welcome to the Homogocene, the age of sameness.

Does the average person in a 1st world country cause more global warming that a person who lived in say the middle ages (per capita)?

For example yes we drive cars and use electricity, but does that really cause more global warming than a person burning wood for cooking and heating or using slash and burn farming techniques?

Trees and plants both grow back, using up the same resources that burning them took away.

Are we making new fossil fuels to put back in the ground?

Well they didn't just magically appear so i'd imagine new fossil fuels are going into the ground at the same rate they originally did.

Fossil fuels are compressed fossils, which aren't well known for popping fast, are they?

In any case, as long as the population expands, the more we will need to tap into the Earth, and even if GW doesn't exist (As you all seem to believe) running out of fossil fuels (Or hell, food) will also spell doom for us.