Animals using tools
 

check out some of these. Especially the chimps attacking the fake leopard. Amazing!

http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2...imaltools.html

Pfft! That's nothing.
I'm an animal and I can use much better tools.

good for you, i suppose

Damm right!

Those mole rats have got NOTHING on me and I will say it to their face any day.

There was a science tv show talking about the difference between a human brain and a chimp brain. It was amazing how well the chimp could remember things and do math!:o (People flunked the same test, or I should say, did not score as highly).

So why are we running the world and chimps aren't. Chimps don't share/ pass on knowledge.

i wish I could remember the name of the show, it might have been Nova.

Plenty of proof here in this forum, so I'd have to agree. :D :p

-S

I wonder, with their current course of evolution taken into account, what chimps will be like in ten thousand years...:hmm:

Don't assume that they will evolve to be more intelligent.
If their environment does not change, they won't change at all. If they can manage to
reproduce with a smaller brain, they will.

Even if they did start to become more intelligent, it would take closer to 10 million
years, rather than 10 thousand for they to get up to our level.

I reckon they'll be able to spam internet forums with junkmail within a decade:p

I think more interesting is that the use of clubs and stones really gives a glimpse of what the early human ancestors might have been like at the very beginning of the tool using era

Edited to account for Uslcl's splendid observation!

I agree, that would be beary interesting.:D ;)

You shoulda seen me last week replacing the O2 sensor on my truck...way down behind the engine. I was going ape. :doh:

I once saw a great blue heron using a feather to attract fish. At first I thought it had shed and floated at random but as the breeze slowly keep it drifting away he would pick it up and put it back into position. He caught 5 in this way before getting full and flying off. I kept the feather and made a fly out of it, keeping it's record going.

Which is precisely why I said . . . with their current course of evolution taken into account . . .:up:

I don't expect them to arise to our level of intelligence in just ten thousand years. Still, it would be a curious thing to see how much they would change in the said amount of time.

The thread title made me think of this:
http://www.larryjzimmerman.com/prehistory/ctools.jpg

Don't be a mole hateah...

Not really. Chimps won't evolve if they don't need to, and they certainly aren't needing it now. Humans won't truly begin the road to a new species because we aren't in a life-or-death scenario (Ignore global warming, don't won't to start a flame war). Handicapped people aren't dying off like if we were living in the wild, but don't take it like I'm supporting eugenics. Chimps aren't really evolving either, since poaching will kill any member of a species, regardless of their genes. Chimps aren't specialist creatures though, they could feasibly survive on the outskirts of a forest, and maybe take to the plains like we did.

errrrr..... I can uses a computr.:rotfl: Whts this buttun do. (explotion in background.):o:lol:

What kind of fly did you use it for?

Your name tells all, a fishing fly of course.