SES Jutland is out
 

The demo is at:
http://stormeaglestudios.com/public/...nloads_v2.html

PD

*cheers*

See it's a little less pricey than DG as well

Now to find out how much more successful, if at all, the HSF could have been if that retard Wilhelm wasn't running the show. :)

"Hey everybody, I wanna have this huge battlefleet and then never use it."

Alright, where's Horsa at? We tried for over a year or so to make Destroyer Command work like jutland....

WO HOO, finaly.:D I wonder what the demo has instore.:yep:

Yeah, there's been a small sh*tstorm on some of the other wargaming boards that I frequent about this DRM stuff. The game certainly intrigued me, but this "phone home every seven days or your copy stops working" stuff is way beyond the pale. Considering that this is a small publisher, they are likely losing more legitimate sales than the ones they would "lose" via piracy. They've also apparently isolated themselves from the community by refusing to engage in open discussion on their forum (and if you don't own the game then forget it). And the typos on the main site are unintentionally hilarious. A tragicomedy to be sure.

How, exactly, was Wilhelm related to this?

AFAIK Wilhelm relied heavily on his generals for advice in the war matters, so the blame should probably fall squarely Tirpitz

Oh, and don't forget the British had the same attitude

EDIT: Oh, just read that after the Battle of Heligoland Bight the Kaiser decided that the fleet should hold back so as to not sustain severe losses, so you're probably right (In the fact that it was Wilhelm's decision not to employ the HSF more aggressively, that is)

Anyway, I hate annoying DRM as well, but as long as they don't limit my playing to a few installs or some such things I'm not gonne pass up the game for it

hmmm whats the diffrence between the pro and the normal edition.:hmm:

The Pro version version has the full 1916 campaign (As opposed to the smaller May 1916 campaign that focuses solely on the Battle of Jutland), and a battle editor

I just bought the Pro version BTW

Now where to get the money.:hmm:

Wear a fake beard and a KLM uniform and you can raise money selling fake color pictures of Alfred von Tirpitz

Great Idea.:rotfl:

The Germans (even the British) had always been conservative in their naval strategy because the Germans were aware of the British number superiority. They couldn't chance losing their fleet, because just its existence as a "fleet in being" necessitated the British operate more conservatively, always taking into account in their operations what the HSF sortieing would mean.

PD

After Heligoland Wilhelm **** his pants, and took up the firm belief that the HSF was doomed if it left port. So he virtually banned its use. Which was pretty funny considering German media claimed that Jellicoe was a coward, whom never left Scapa Flow. :D

It's too bad he did listen to them. Otherwise he might have not have opted to construct one of the biggest strategic blunders in history. The High Seas Fleet.

I'm actually a fan of the HSF, but it's a subjective choice based on my liking for the KM's ship design.

Jellicoe kept the Grand Fleet at Sea constantly, and Beatty obsessivley hunted Sheer whenever rumors of his presense were about. Jellicoe was cautious but he was by no means a believer of the "Fleet in Being" concept.

He did lift the ban on its use after Dogger Bank. The Scouting Force couldn't operate safely without the HSF on immediate standby. Then Wilhelm, ever the self-contradictory, put the ban right back on the fleet after Jutland.

Anyway i've decided to experiment with a more aggressive strategy. It's paid off so far. I used the scouting force to ruin a large DD/CL patrol group in the channel. Only narrowly avoiding Beatty the next morning. Using Zeppelin scouting and minelaying I was able to corner a Monitor Fleet at Dover and annhiliate it with the HSF. I've lost lots of destroyers though. I can only hope i'm slowly wearing down the channel's defenses.

As I see it, that's the problem with using the HSF too aggressively. The Brits get more reinforcements while you have to make do with what you have. Eventually, once you sacrifice all your pawns (DDs) you will have to sacrifice some BBs/BCs. And you can't afford to lose any of those without being sure of striking a major blow to the British. Have you had any luck with your U-Boats? I plan to start an HSF campaign soon, and will probably do an AAR here when I do. Let us (me) know how your's is going so I may learn from your mistakes. :)

PD

I just used Hipper's Scouting force to annihilate one of the British cruiser squadrons guarding the entrance to the channel (Let them get in close during the night, then mowed them down with the Battlecruisers and DDs)

Planning to send the Hochseeflotte down to the channel soon and try to disrupt the troop shipments, maybe get the Brits to send a sizable force to oppose me

Only problem I have with this game is too many magazine explosions...and on ships it shouldn't really happen to. Baden class,Revenge class Queen Elizabeth class and Iron Duke class to name a few. I can understand it if a Brit BC goes boom once in a while but I just had a random battle where 3 of my 4 British BBs all had magazine explosions. I really hope they tone this down cause right now it's throwing realism right out the window.

Did you turn on the "Advanced Critical Hits (Fragile AP Shells)" option in the realism menu? I'm not sure if it effects it much though

I have yet to suffer a single magazine explosion, every ship I saw went into the drain the hard way

SES spells out their damage control reasoning here:
http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?t=80732

It doesn't seem unreasonable at all to me. Try and stay at range (10K+) when engaging as the Brits, or you risk magazines blowing up with a rather alarming regularity when you come under sustained (and more accurate) Hun fire.

PD

"Like a fine painting from the world’s leading military artists, our newest game JUTLAND delivers like no other. The graphic quality of the ships and the ocean explode onto the screen in unprecedented grandeur. Every ship in JUTLAND has been historically researched , carefully crafted and painstakingly rendered in exquisite detail. Here you will experience historical simulations in a lush, rich, real-time 3D game environment unparalleled in today's gaming"

They sure dont hold back on promoting themselves. The graphics would have looked out of date 6 years ago. theres nothing lush or rich about them whatsoever :rotfl:

For anyone whos played Jutland are the controls any better then DG?