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seaniam81 08-17-08 01:24 PM

problems with video card
 
Hey guy I just got a new video card a Nvidia 9600 GT and am installing it into a fresh copy of windows. However once the computer restarts this happens

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o...1/P8160004.jpg

I'm running an Acer E700, Pentium D, 650W power supply. I'm thinking its a bad card but maybe looking for a second opinion

Orion2012 08-17-08 01:55 PM

What type of output to the monitor are you using?? Standard VGA, HDMI, DVI??

XP or Vista. (9XXX cards are known to have problems with Vista, until drivers are updated.

seaniam81 08-17-08 03:26 PM

Ya sorry i'm running XP, and a DVI connection. The card has 2 DVI-I and one HDTV out. tryed both DVI's no luck get the same result

Pisces 08-17-08 04:20 PM

Did you get the earlier graphics showing windows is loading? Have you tried entering XP in save-mode? Did that also come up corrupted?

Arclight 08-17-08 08:03 PM

Looks like the RAM on that card is shot to me. Like Pisces said, if that's all that it's showing, it's safe to say you got a dud there.

Else; did you uninstall the old one? I mean drivers, clean in safe mode, maybe even uninstall the card itself in device manager (the regular drill)?

Latest drivers? 175.19 :hmm:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_175.19_whql.html

banjo 08-17-08 09:09 PM

Latest drivers?

seaniam81 08-17-08 10:33 PM

This card was installed on a fresh format and install of windows XP. I've tried the newest drivers from Nvidia, and the drivers that came with the card. It works perfectly in safe mode, and VGASave. Oh well it's a good thing the store has a good return policy, but i'll bring my camera to show them the problem anyways

Orion2012 08-17-08 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by seaniam81
This card was installed on a fresh format and install of windows XP. I've tried the newest drivers from Nvidia, and the drivers that came with the card. It works perfectly in safe mode, and VGASave. Oh well it's a good thing the store has a good return policy, but i'll bring my camera to show them the problem anyways

If it works in safe mode then it's probably not the card. All safe mod does is make windows boot with the minimum amount of drivers required. It could still be the card, but it may not be either.

CoolHand 08-18-08 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Arclight
Looks like the RAM on that card is shot to me. Like Pisces said, if that's all that it's showing, it's safe to say you got a dud there.

Else; did you uninstall the old one? I mean drivers, clean in safe mode, maybe even uninstall the card itself in device manager (the regular drill)?

Latest drivers? 175.19 :hmm:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_175.19_whql.html

latest drivers that are out are now the 177.83's which incorporate the use of Physx support. the drivers alone are 118mb. and they can be used on all 8000 series cards and up

http://nzone.download.nvidia.com/nod...ional_whql.exe

there..try that link instead..direct link to the file

Arclight 08-18-08 05:06 PM

I just didn't think it would be wise to troubleshoot with beta drivers, but either the 175.19 or 177.83 should work. ;)

Side note; The 177's give me worse performance, but they finally solve issues with specific games being unplayable (on 8800 series).

seaniam81 08-19-08 01:42 AM

well i took the card back and got a new one. Same problems. I dont think my Motherboard can handle it. sooo i guess it's time for a upgrade. :up:

Arclight 08-19-08 06:59 PM

Not to question your know-how, more of a last ditch guess; you sure you connected the additional power plug?

There should be an PCI-E power connector on the card to feed it some extra power. And there should be an adaptor with the accessoires (molex to PCI-E) if your PSU doesn't have such a connector.

Maybe try the old card as well, just to make sure the problem is with the card. :hmm:

seaniam81 08-19-08 11:47 PM

Yep tried both the 4 pin adapter, and the PCI-e connector. Even tried different spots on my modular power supply. I'm going to be taking my pc in to the shop. But I think my motherboard cant handle it, or the guy who sold me the power supply lied when he said it would be enough for the card.

Oh and my old card works fine, guess i'm going to have to settle for only 18fps on SH4 for a while longer

Orion2012 08-20-08 12:57 AM

If it worked in safe mod it's not the power supply issue. Is it an 8x or 16x PCI-E card?? that would be the biggest incompatibility problem I could see. If it's a a 8800 or higher card, there is a CPU requirement.

Arclight 08-20-08 08:25 AM

Just thinking out loud on the power thingy, who knows? :)

It still looks like some memory issue to me. Maybe XP has a problem adressing it, XP being a pretty "old" OS and that 9600GT being a relatively new card. I'm more inclined to say it's a problem with Windows then with the motherboard, since the card works properly until you boot normally.

I would say there's an app running in the background messing with the timings from a previous install, but that's not it since he has a fresh OS. :hmm:

Which brings me back to a driver issue, maybe made worse by your particular setup. Boy, this one is a puzzler.

Sorry mate, don't know what advice to give anymore. Orion2012 could be right about other components not keeping up with the card. :-?

Digital_Trucker 08-20-08 11:07 AM

From what I can tell from the information on the motherboard that I can find, it's a 16x (doesn't say whether it's PCIe 2.0 or not), so I don't think the motherboard is your problem. If it works in safe mode and doesn't in normal mode, I'd be willing to bet it's a driver issue or conflicting software.

Orion2012 08-20-08 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker
I'd be willing to bet it's a driver issue or conflicting software.

As always DT good point.

If you were running Nhancer, Rivatuner, powerstrip, or made any registry edits to your original drivers involving overclocking or even somthing miniscule as forced AA, changing the AA from multi-super sample or vice versa. Its vital you set everything back to default before installing new drivers and a new card.

The 9600 Cards are PCI-E 2.0, and in my opinion that probably where the incompatibility problem lies, but one would think it wouldn't work in safe mode then either.

CoolHand 08-20-08 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker
From what I can tell from the information on the motherboard that I can find, it's a 16x (doesn't say whether it's PCIe 2.0 or not), so I don't think the motherboard is your problem. If it works in safe mode and doesn't in normal mode, I'd be willing to bet it's a driver issue or conflicting software.

gotta agree...as the 2.0 stuff back clocks to X16 setups. i have a 8800GT 2.0 card in a X16 motherboard.

CoolHand 08-20-08 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion2012
If it worked in safe mod it's not the power supply issue. Is it an 8x or 16x PCI-E card?? that would be the biggest incompatibility problem I could see. If it's a a 8800 or higher card, there is a CPU requirement.

umm where did you hear this..as i have my BFG 8800GT OC box sitting in front of me and says NOTHING about a CPU requirement.

says 1gb of system memory. Vista or XP, PCI Express motherboard with X16 slot atleast and 425 watt PCI express compliant power supply. one 6 pin PCI express power connector or two 4 pin molex connectors

Orion2012 08-20-08 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoolHand
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion2012
If it worked in safe mod it's not the power supply issue. Is it an 8x or 16x PCI-E card?? that would be the biggest incompatibility problem I could see. If it's a a 8800 or higher card, there is a CPU requirement.

umm where did you hear this..as i have my BFG 8800GT OC box sitting in front of me and says NOTHING about a CPU requirement.

says 1gb of system memory. Vista or XP, PCI Express motherboard with X16 slot atleast and 425 watt PCI express compliant power supply. one 6 pin PCI express power connector or two 4 pin molex connectors

It's never on the box, it's not a requirment per say, this article explains it better then I can, but if your CPU dosen't meet the cycle times....just read this

http://www.digit-life.com/articles3/...2_scaling.html

I see your point, it may hinder performance but not cause the card not to run.

Out of curiosity what clock speed does your 8800 have. I almost bought the BFG OC, but decided on the Alpha overclock. I have mine currently OC'd to 840 MHZ


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