What does the Canadian Health Care system look like?
 

This will shock many Americans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XsRzfckneg&

-S

I just had lazar eye surgery done (both eyes:o ) Number of days I had to wait from my appointment to the surgery :2 days. I like our health care system thank you. The funny thing about all those "free health care systems, they're not free, because the gov't takes the money from your pay check.

Exactly.

-S

Too bad it won't shock them into changing their beliefs. They will just say "tweak it" instead of "burn it and build another one".

Precisely. :yep:

Its bad in Canada. I know I live there. But private clinics are only avaible for those who can afford it. It why I avoid them as much as possible. Anyhow There not even safe. Ingrown Hospital viruses. Its safer to do your own bandaging up at home. You'll live longer hehehehe.


Ya your right about the government taking the money. most of it they pocket.:yep: No one can prove it but we all know it happens here.

Okay, go on and throw the first stone while sitting in a glass house. I know two other cases from the US like this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7485910.stm

Recently, there was a thread on crimes being carried out in the presence of witnesses who did not help, and this example is not a bit different. A society where people live whom are so indifferent like to be seen here should have other worries than mocking about the health system of it's neighbours.

This seems like a typical liberal view to me. How, exactly can this be fixed? Pass a law that people have to care? I have no doubt that most people are most inclined to whatever action benefits them most. The key is harnessing that power through incentive. You can't legislate morality any more than you can legislate stupidity.
Tragic as it is, there will always be a$$holes.

QUOTE: - from that article
Six people have since been fired or suspended as a result of the incident, including security staff and members of the medical staff.

Apathy like that should not be tolerated. Yes, you can make people care by putting their very job on the line.

There are incompetent twats in all professions, in all countries. Pointing to one of them while jumping up and down screaming about how it's an indicator of a failed system is just childish. It might impress people, but to change peoples' minds you'd have to do some boring research and come up with statistics and facts that covered a bit more than... one case.

I'd tell someone to tell Spamman1 to read up on statistics showing US health care to be mediocre compared to many other first-world countries in the world, many of which have socialized health care... but I don't think he'd listen, so I digress.

Watch this movie meanwhile.

Might not be free... but could well work out cheaper.

You guys pay insurance premiums in the event of you needing an operation or treatment or whatever. The deductions from the pay cheque are variable... the higher earners pay a little more the lower earners pay less. Is there any variability in health insurance premiums to account of income?

Also the idea of taking out an insurance policy... I wouldn't be comfortable with that. To the insurance people you are a thing... a potential loss of profit. Insurance companies like nothing better than to not pay out.

So I like our health care system too. I just wish it was run better, and was of a higher standard... because that is what our Labour politicians have promised over the last decade....:roll:

Project aims to change US health care:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7484028.stm

I love my french communist health care system thank you :up:
(and my government hates it, thus proving it's damn good)

Part of the issue with our Health Care System is the failure to properly anticipate the shortages with regards to all of the boomers retiring, this is one of the reasons for the long wait times in some of the professions, surgeries being one. Related to this is the loss of leadership with those boomers retiring, that is not replaced easily and has contributed to the situation ( vision, ability to problem solve ) here.

A bigger issue though are the users themselves of the system, instead of taking some personal responsibility for their own health, they view hospitals as the place to go to fix all of their problems. I have been to outpatients on more than one occasion and most of the folks there did not need to be. This kind of stuff is a huge drain on the system and takes away from those who really need the care.

Up until the last 3-5 years though, I have been more than happy with our system.


RDP

We have the best health care in the wolrd, but no system if perfect. Get used to it!

I mean, when people get sick around the world, they don't go to Germany, or France, or Spain, or the UK - They avoid them like the plague!!!

Where do they go? America! No where else! We may have to pay insurance premiums, but at the end of the day, that buys us the best stuff money can buy bar none! That is what i want if I ever get sick! Not some Socialist medicine that is a decade or more behind ours! Crazy!

And I get worked on same day if i need it here for any ailment.

-S

Best healthcare as in quality of healthcare or best in terms of provision.

Yes no health care system is free, difference is is it free at point of service, or do yo upay up front.

We in the UK pay our N.I. like Penelope has said and it varies with your income earn more pay more. Also you aren't denied this insurance depending on your risk toward certain things.

Also is your insurance unlimited? What happens if you end up in intensive care, need a bunch of surgery and then your insurance runs out,,,what if it doesn't cover you? Your'e out on the street...that happened to a friend of ours in the Texas....

So I prefer my system where I KNOW for sure without a doubt I can get care, I won't be turned away and don't have to trek halfway across town to go to a clinic that will treat me.

Both!

Policies have a limit, such as a million $. So if they have to rebuild your body from the ground up, grow all new organs, and piece meal you back to health, there is a chance you can run out, but then there are other options, such as disability and medicare.

-S

PS. Most people in Europe have no idea that anyone that wants to be covered over here can be if you go through Medicare, with restrictions of course, so we get the best of both worlds, and the best equipment money can buy. I've seen what socialized medicine buys for medical equipment - its pretty pathetic. Over here, hospitals are like country club and everyone is always checking up on you to see how you are doing. In socialized medicine, you're lucky if a nurse comes in to check at all!

Anyway the video linked is pure rubbish, I didn't even bother watching past the first 30 seconds. Having free health care doesn't make people think "hey it's free, let's break myself some bones and go to the hospital". Yet another troll :roll:

Hardly. My mother in law died last year in Canada and their health care pretty much sucks! I should have brought her to the states.

Your statement is very troll like however.

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Whose "they?"

I've been injured quite badly during my short life once upon a time... I never went to America to get better.

You think you've got the best healthcare in the world?
On what do you found that that claim? When there is plenty of evidence to the contrary.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/12/opinion/12sun1.html
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-healthcare.htm
http://www.who.int/whr/2000/media_ce.../en/index.html

If you read only the first paragraph of the World Health link... it says France has the best overall medical provision, followed by Italy, Spain, Oman, Austria and Japan. America ain't even on the list!

WHO's reports rank your healthcare as 37th as compared to the UK's 18th. So the US health system is NOT the best in the world. Far from it in fact. The French healthcare is the best in the world. So tell me... why would "they" want to avoid the countries you list like plague... when they are all better than the US model?