Federal Stimulus being put to good use I see!
 

Of interesting note here - Most serious firearm owners are in states that issue CCP's, which bypasses these checks, which means this is occuring from Joe Blow public! Good for them! :up:

-S

Gotta keep the Queen of England off their backyards somehow right? :lol:

Japanese Admirals were quoted as saying that the major reason for not invading the US in WWII was that most US citizens are known to be armed which would have translated into massive causulties for Japanese troops.

-S

I think I know the real reason gun purchases are increasing.

People are beginning to realize that they have to take care of themselves? Calling a cop is already to late? They are getting a clue?

-S

It must be something about promissed "Change" :rotfl:

Not sure I understand what you meant

Obama's promised change is probably a change for the worse, away from the Constitution, and away from what is right. Socialism.

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OT so I'll leave it to this post. But also it being logistically impossible had something to do with it, even without the gun toting populace. Hawaii would have been a stretch to begin with, let alone the West coast.

PD

I agree! Deal is though, they wanted California - Oil. Thats why it was looked at.

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Had the Japanese taken Hawaii they probably could've done incredibly well over the long run. Seeing as most of the BB and BC and LC that were damaged there were salvaged or repaired and sent out onto active duty. Seizing those ships before they can be repaired would've been a tremendous blow to the U.S. Pacific fleet let alone the attack on PH itself.

okay, sry for the OT post.

Not to mention adding a few thousand miles to the distance we had to travel to get to the front line. Pearl was vital to our war effort in the pacific for sure.

I can already picture some cow-poking town in the Midwestern United States having World War I vets gathering up Civil War family swords and rifles and shotguns preparing for the invasion. Probably would get horses together, too!

Maybe we should start another thread. But that is a VERY BIG "if".

PD

The majority of armies at the time were horse drawn.

PD

In the U.S.?

:hmm:

Cavalry units had pretty much been deemed obsolete by that time, and the rest of the world realised it during World War I with the invention of the tank and airplane.

The US army was actually one of the least dependent on horses after industry was mobilized for war. The premier army of the time, the Wehrmact is included. Infantry marching alongside horses carrying heavy weapons.

I am not talking about cavalry. Horses were the primary form of moving equipment.

PD

True. The German march under the Arc 'd Triomphe comes to mind.

Hardly. What do you think? With all the guns America buys around here that Americans would be relying on 100 year old artifacts? Come on already! America is and has been for ages the worlds most heavily armed society. Most Americans probably had better rifles than the standard issue for the Japanese army at the time!

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Japan never invaded the US due to logistical problems and the small problem of the USN, USMC and US Army. Hawaii wasn't a viable target for invasion either as it was within range of US bombers and far from any Japanese held territory; the supply lines would have been far too long and vulnerable for any effective occupation to take place. The raid on Pearl was cut short by Nagumo partly due to his concerns over the amount of fuel they had left to get back to Japanese controlled waters, imagine the amounts needed to sustain an invasion!

I doubt that they were scared off because there were high levels of gun ownership in the US. Certainly in planning that would be a consideration, but a motly crew of civilians toting an assortment of hunting rifles, pistols etc would not have been much of a match for a trained and disciplined army. The other point to add is that most countries during the war raised some form of civilian defence force, e.g. the Home Guard in the UK; what were they if not armed civilians? There has never been any suggestion that the Germans found that this fact made Britain anymore daunting a prospect to attack.