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SUBMAN1 05-08-08 12:25 PM

Looks like we need to keep our camps in Guantanamo Bay open indefinitely
 
Isn't this just nice - :down: http://license.icopyright.net/user/v...AxMDIzNw%3D%3D

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SUBMAN1 05-08-08 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl
That just proves Guantanamo is ineffective, then why would you want to keep it running ?

Because the very people they release go out and carry out what they originally planned in the first place. So why close it down? It seems very effective to me in keeping idiots like this from strapping explosives on.

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JetSnake 05-08-08 12:36 PM

The ineffective part is that the detainees are not being served justice quick enough. Think NATO 5.56 injections via firing squad.

SUBMAN1 05-08-08 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JetSnake
The ineffective part is that the detainees are not being served justice quick enough. Think NATO 5.56 injections via firing squad.

They have the right to do this, so I think they are being extremely over humane by keeping them alive in the camps, no? What do you think? I agree with you however.

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JetSnake 05-08-08 12:41 PM

I think executions should be televised too. Heck even pay-for-view would be fine by me.

SUBMAN1 05-08-08 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JetSnake
I think executions should be televised too. Heck even pay-for-view would be fine by me.

THats a good way to get the message out. Used to work in the old days - hang them in the streets!

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StdDev 05-08-08 12:45 PM

Put them to work sweeping the bottom of the Mariana Trench!

PeriscopeDepth 05-08-08 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
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Originally Posted by JetSnake
The ineffective part is that the detainees are not being served justice quick enough. Think NATO 5.56 injections via firing squad.

They have the right to do this, so I think they are being extremely over humane by keeping them alive in the camps, no? What do you think? I agree with you however.

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Because we don't have the balls. And to try and claim the moral high ground in a fight where there is no place for morality. IMO.

PD

iambecomelife 05-08-08 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl
Ok, put another way : if I were sent in an illegal jail without charge against me, spoiled from my rights, only to be released 3 and a half years later ? You bet I wouldn't just go back to my job and move on quietly.

Explain why Guantanamo is illegal.

And three years? Tough. Why should POW's be repatriated BEFORE their organizations stop waging war on the US?

iambecomelife 05-08-08 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Note how the lawyers say that he was an innocent little lamb until the evil Americans took him to Guantanamo. Please. :roll:

mrbeast 05-08-08 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by iambecomelife
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikhayl
Ok, put another way : if I were sent in an illegal jail without charge against me, spoiled from my rights, only to be released 3 and a half years later ? You bet I wouldn't just go back to my job and move on quietly.

Explain why Guantanamo is illegal.

And three years? Tough. Why should POW's be repatriated BEFORE their organizations stop waging war on the US?

Well that would be logical if they were awarded the status of POW's.

Another thing that I find A little strange is that although Guantanamo is US terrirory, US law doesn't seem to apply there? :hmm:

SUBMAN1 05-08-08 02:26 PM

Pretty much. Our laws don't apply to the Philippines (another US territory) either for example, so if you lived there, you get all the benefits from the USA, but you don't even have to pay taxes. Maybe I should move! :D

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mrbeast 05-08-08 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Pretty much. Our laws don't apply to the Philippines (another US territory) either for example, so if you lived there, you get all the benefits from the USA, but you don't even have to pay taxes. Maybe I should move! :D

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I thought the Phillipines are an independant republic, did the US re-take control over them while I was away at work? :huh:

Blacklight 05-08-08 02:42 PM

It just goes to show you that these idiots are not going to stop. Nor are they going to be rehabilitated. Their brainwashing is too strong. Even if you TRY to "rehabilitate" these guys, their beliefs are so ingrained in them that they'll just tell people what they want to hear so they can get released and continue with the bloodshed. :nope:

SUBMAN1 05-08-08 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mrbeast
I thought the Phillipines are an independant republic, did the US re-take control over them while I was away at work? :huh:

You may be right. Let me look it up. I know anyone that lives there can come here without restriction, etc.

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SUBMAN1 05-08-08 02:46 PM

Oops - its Puerto Rico that I am mixing it up with.

Current US territories:

American Samoa, Midway Islands, Federated States of Micronesia, Puerto Rico, Guam, US Virgin Islands.

Regardless, if you live in any of these, no US laws apply, but you get all US benefits short of voting. You also don't have to pay any taxes.

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mrbeast 05-08-08 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
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Originally Posted by mrbeast
I thought the Phillipines are an independant republic, did the US re-take control over them while I was away at work? :huh:

You may be right. Let me look it up. I know anyone that lives there can come here without restriction, etc.

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IIRC there is a similar status for Irish nationals here in the UK and I think some commonwealth countries too .

Tchocky 05-08-08 04:10 PM

Hmph. Guantanamo. We can't release these dangerous freedom-haters, we know they're horrible people. The worst of the worst.
Prove it.
Ah. We can't try them. No US laws apply here. Sorry

How unfortunate that you decided to fly them to Guantanamo. How very unfortunate.

I'm sure that whatever happens will be fair and balanced.

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The testimony from Davis marked the transformation of an outspoken defender of Guantanamo — he once compared putting detainees on trial to dragging "Dracula out into the sunlight" — into a persistent critic.
He alleged, among other things, that Haynes appeared shocked when Davis suggested in a 2005 meeting that acquittals, however disappointing, could boost the credibility of the system.
"He looked at me and said 'We can't have acquittals, we've been holding these guys for years,'" Davis testified.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i...R36dgD90B80D82

Screw it, I can't say anything that hasn't been said. A bloody stain on the conscience of the US.

SUBMAN1 05-08-08 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky
...Screw it, I can't say anything that hasn't been said. A bloody stain on the conscience of the US.

Only when we release them.

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Tchocky 05-08-08 04:22 PM

Yeah, that's why everyone else stands with the US on this issue.

Right.


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