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stabiz 03-21-08 08:28 PM
Bismarck expedition by James Cameron
 
Anyone seen it? Wow, that ship really went for a ride when it "landed" on the sea floor. Pretty good documantary about the Death Star of warships.

It must have been wild to see those 1-ton shells coming for you.:huh:

Torplexed 03-21-08 08:38 PM
I saw it several years ago. If I remember correctly, Titantic actor Bill Paxton narrates and appears in a few scenes.

Now if we could just get Cameron to do a Sink the Bismarck movie updated with CGI . :hmm:

stabiz 03-21-08 09:33 PM
Or even better, get Ridley Scott to do it. I thought about this as I was watching the docummentary, it has all the drama you`ll need.:)

The knockout on the Hood, followed by some damage that forces the Bismarck to go a bit below top speed. Then the biplanes(!) and their insane charge with torpedoes to slow her down even more, which leaves the Bismarck crippled with a busted rudder.

All about the men being told to get whatever they want from the storages onboard, and get ready for the final battle as all of Churchills ships close in from all sides. Oh, and the pilot who was supposed to be sent off with the war documents and final goodbye`s from the sailors, but couldnt because of a faulty launch mechanism.

2000+ shells were fired at the Bismarck, and 700+ of those were huge shells from f.i. 14 inch guns.

Great tragedy for the thousands that died in the cold water, but also a great story,this. Much like the Death Star in Star Wars.

Torplexed 03-22-08 09:41 AM
The story does need a good update, especially on the characters. The 1960 movie portrays Admiral Lutjens as some sort of wild-eyed Nazi with visions of wiping the Atlantic clean of shipping. In fact, Lutjens was quite the fatalist and felt the mission was doomed from the start.

nikimcbee 03-23-08 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Torplexed
I saw it several years ago. If I remember correctly, Titantic actor Bill Paxton narrates and appears in a few scenes.

Now if we could just get Cameron to do a Sink the Bismarck movie updated with CGI . :hmm:
Me likes this idea:up:

But the only problem is, if Hollywood makes it, the US will be the ones sinking the Bismarck:roll:

Maybe Bollywood...no

Nevermind:rotfl:

nikimcbee 03-23-08 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Torplexed
The story does need a good update, especially on the characters. The 1960 movie portrays Admiral Lutjens as some sort of wild-eyed Nazi with visions of wiping the Atlantic clean of shipping. In fact, Lutjens was quite the fatalist and felt the mission was doomed from the start.
Yeah, I totally agree.:know: I love how the post war movies (1950-late 60s) potray the nazis as these radical freeks. (example: the nazi guy on "Enemy Below"):rotfl:

Trex 03-23-08 10:05 AM
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But the only problem is, if Hollywood makes it, the US will be the ones sinking the Bismarck:roll:
Oddly enough, there were two ties to the USA. The first, obviously, was the Lend-Lease Catalina patrol aircraft that relocated the Bismark on 26 May 1941. What is much less commonly known is that the copilot on that RAF aircraft was Ensign Leonard Smith, USN, on 'exchange' duties with the RAF.

Steel_Tomb 03-23-08 10:42 AM
Next they will make a movie on how the yanks managed to grab an enigma machine on some daring mission...:doh: :damn:

:rotfl:

If the problem with bismark is that it faired poorly when just using the different engines to change direction. if they could do this correctly and drop off the rudder it may have been a different story.

iambecomelife 03-23-08 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by stabiz
Or even better, get Ridley Scott to do it. I thought about this as I was watching the docummentary, it has all the drama you`ll need.:)

The knockout on the Hood, followed by some damage that forces the Bismarck to go a bit below top speed. Then the biplanes(!) and their insane charge with torpedoes to slow her down even more, which leaves the Bismarck crippled with a busted rudder.

All about the men being told to get whatever they want from the storages onboard, and get ready for the final battle as all of Churchills ships close in from all sides. Oh, and the pilot who was supposed to be sent off with the war documents and final goodbye`s from the sailors, but couldnt because of a faulty launch mechanism.

2000+ shells were fired at the Bismarck, and 700+ of those were huge shells from f.i. 14 inch guns.

Great tragedy for the thousands that died in the cold water, but also a great story,this. Much like the Death Star in Star Wars.
Yes; those would all make excellent scenes. However, aren't you leaving out the part where an American PT-boat sinks the Bismarck single-handedly? :roll:

Anyway, there's apparently going to be a movie about the plot to kill Hitler in the next several months or so - hopefully this will generate renewed interest in WWII films - particularly, films that have realistic Axis characters in them.

nikimcbee 03-23-08 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by iambecomelife
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Originally Posted by stabiz
Or even better, get Ridley Scott to do it. I thought about this as I was watching the docummentary, it has all the drama you`ll need.:)

The knockout on the Hood, followed by some damage that forces the Bismarck to go a bit below top speed. Then the biplanes(!) and their insane charge with torpedoes to slow her down even more, which leaves the Bismarck crippled with a busted rudder.

All about the men being told to get whatever they want from the storages onboard, and get ready for the final battle as all of Churchills ships close in from all sides. Oh, and the pilot who was supposed to be sent off with the war documents and final goodbye`s from the sailors, but couldnt because of a faulty launch mechanism.

2000+ shells were fired at the Bismarck, and 700+ of those were huge shells from f.i. 14 inch guns.

Great tragedy for the thousands that died in the cold water, but also a great story,this. Much like the Death Star in Star Wars.
Yes; those would all make excellent scenes. However, aren't you leaving out the part where an American PT-boat sinks the Bismarck single-handedly? :roll:

Anyway, there's apparently going to be a movie about the plot to kill Hitler in the next several months or so - hopefully this will generate renewed interest in WWII films - particularly, films that have realistic Axis characters in them.
Yay, another Hiter movie.:roll: Place in microwave...reheat for 45 seconds...serve:roll:

bradclark1 03-23-08 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Steel_Tomb
Next they will make a movie on how the yanks managed to grab an enigma machine on some daring mission...:doh: :damn:
They did!













:lol: :D gotcha.

iambecomelife 03-23-08 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by nikimcbee
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Originally Posted by iambecomelife
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Originally Posted by stabiz
Or even better, get Ridley Scott to do it. I thought about this as I was watching the docummentary, it has all the drama you`ll need.:)

The knockout on the Hood, followed by some damage that forces the Bismarck to go a bit below top speed. Then the biplanes(!) and their insane charge with torpedoes to slow her down even more, which leaves the Bismarck crippled with a busted rudder.

All about the men being told to get whatever they want from the storages onboard, and get ready for the final battle as all of Churchills ships close in from all sides. Oh, and the pilot who was supposed to be sent off with the war documents and final goodbye`s from the sailors, but couldnt because of a faulty launch mechanism.

2000+ shells were fired at the Bismarck, and 700+ of those were huge shells from f.i. 14 inch guns.

Great tragedy for the thousands that died in the cold water, but also a great story,this. Much like the Death Star in Star Wars.
Yes; those would all make excellent scenes. However, aren't you leaving out the part where an American PT-boat sinks the Bismarck single-handedly? :roll:

Anyway, there's apparently going to be a movie about the plot to kill Hitler in the next several months or so - hopefully this will generate renewed interest in WWII films - particularly, films that have realistic Axis characters in them.
Yay, another Hiter movie.:roll: Place in microwave...reheat for 45 seconds...serve:roll:
The focus is actually going to be on one of the chief plotters (forgot his name) and not Hitler himself, so it seems like it will be pretty interesting. They also seem to take the historical ambience seriously - I'm not a rivet counter but I recall seeing some beautifully accurate ME-109's in one preview scene. I always like it when moviemakers actually bother to provide accurate ships & planes for period films.

EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valkyrie_%28film%29

Steel_Tomb 03-23-08 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bradclark1
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Originally Posted by Steel_Tomb
Next they will make a movie on how the yanks managed to grab an enigma machine on some daring mission...:doh: :damn:
They did!











:lol: :D gotcha.
I hated U-571, crap film. Amazed me how they got away with making a "historical" film thats so far from reality. Its like saying Buzz Aldrin & co had to hack their way through a Cylon fleet to land on the moon in their Raptor! :roll: :damn:

Stealth Hunter 03-23-08 01:46 PM
Oh, come on. U-571 wasn't that bad of a film. It was pretty enjoyable actually. No Das Boot, mind you, but films like Das Boot are very rare in today's film society. At least U-571 revived the memory of the submarine fleets of the Kriegsmarine.

Jimbuna 03-23-08 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Steel_Tomb
Next they will make a movie on how the yanks managed to grab an enigma machine on some daring mission...:doh: :damn:

:rotfl:

If the problem with bismark is that it faired poorly when just using the different engines to change direction. if they could do this correctly and drop off the rudder it may have been a different story.
LMAO :rotfl:

Torplexed 03-23-08 04:19 PM
If anyone attempts to confuse who really sank the Bismarck we'll just play them the old Johnny Horton song....:smug:

....wait....Johnny was an American. :o :damn:

In May of 1941 the war had just begun
The Germans had the biggest ship that had the biggest guns
The Bismarck was the fastest ship that ever sailed the sea
On her decks were guns as big as steers and shells as big as trees

Out of the cold and foggy night came the British ship the Hood
And every British seaman he knew and understood
They had to sink the Bismarck the terror of the sea
Stop those guns as big as steers and those shells as big as trees
We'll find the German battleship that's makin' such a fuss
We gotta sink the Bismarck cause the world depends on us
Yeah hit the decks a runnin' boys and spin those guns around
When we find the Bismarck we gotta cut her down
[ ac.guitar ]
The Hood found the Bismarck and on that fatal day
The Bismarck started firing fifteen miles away
We gotta sink the Bismarck was the battle sound
But when the smoke had cleared away the mighty Hood went down
For six long days and weary nights they tried to find her trail
Churchill told the people put every ship asail
Cause somewhere on that ocean I know she's gotta be
We gotta sink the Bismarck to the bottom of the sea
We'll find the German battleship...
[ ac.guitar ]
The fog was gone the seventh day and they saw the morning sun
Ten hours away from homeland the Bismarck made its run
The Admiral of the British fleet said turn those bows around
We found that German battleship and we're gonna cut her down
The British guns were aimed and the shells were coming fast
The first shell hit the Bismarck they knew she couldn't last
That mighty German battleship is just a memory
Sink the Bismarck was the battle cry that shook the seven seas
We found the German battleship t'was makin' such a fuss
We had to sink the Bismarck cause the world depends on us
We hit the deck a runnin' and we and spun those guns around
Yeah we found the mighty Bismarck and then we cut her down
We found the German battleship...

Jimbuna 03-24-08 09:23 AM
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Thunder 03-24-08 12:06 PM
A truly fantastic ww2 film about hitler and his last days was "Downfall" , the actor (as near as i could tell by not knowing hitler) really got hitlers mannerisims etc down pat.
Check it out
http://www.downfallthefilm.com/
.... but knowing this site you guys have probably alrady seen it:lol:.

bookworm_020 03-24-08 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Torplexed
I saw it several years ago. If I remember correctly, Titantic actor Bill Paxton narrates and appears in a few scenes.

Now if we could just get Cameron to do a Sink the Bismarck movie updated with CGI . :hmm:
As long as there is no Tom Cruise and Celine Dion involved!:eek:


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