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tonschk 03-08-08 09:28 PM

Silent Hunter 4 ,a game without shadows ?
 
Hi , It looks like this SH3 and SH4 are games without shadows , and of course this decrease the inmersion factor ,I have the game DIRT of Colin Mcrae ,and the shadows in DIRT generated with the cars are awesome , can you tell me please if exist a mod to add the shadows to this excellent SH4 game ? thank you very much

LukeFF 03-08-08 09:35 PM

???

Of course there are shadows in the game.

tonschk 03-08-08 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeFF
???

Of course there are shadows in the game.


One side of the sub is darker , the other side of the sub is less dark but are no shadows ,I am pretty sure

the gun machine , periscope ,sailors etc etc , dont produce shadows

Lightning61 03-08-08 11:04 PM

Has anyone actually enabled the dynamic shadows and noticed a difference?

tonschk 03-09-08 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Lightning61
Has anyone actually enabled the dynamic shadows and noticed a difference?

I already enabled "dynamic shadows" but still the sailors ,gun machine, periscope etc etc dont project any shadow on the floor of the deck , each object and people in the SH4 game have the darker side and the clearer side but dont project any shadow on the deck of the ship, the ships dont project shadows on the water

Paajtor 03-09-08 07:30 AM

i think you're right.
In addition to the ingame-setting, I also enabled DynamicShadows (set it to =Yes) in C:\Documents and Settings\<yourusername>\My Documents\SH4\data\cfg\Main, AND in ...:\Program Files\Silent Hunter 4\Data\Cfg\Main.
Can't tell the difference, to be honest.:-?

tonschk 03-09-08 10:05 AM

Actually there are reflection of explosions and reflection of smoke on the water , but not shadows

MONOLITH 03-09-08 10:15 AM

Certain games, like shooters with people standing on the ground, can definately look odd with no shadows on the ground.

But with sub stuff, it doesn't seem as noticeable. I've never even thought about them until this thread; and I still don't miss them.

AVGWarhawk 03-09-08 05:31 PM

If you look around the interior there are definitly shadows. Outside :hmm: , perhaps not.

rodan54 03-09-08 06:04 PM

The OP is refering to 'Dynamic Shadows', which is not what SH4 has. SH4 uses occlusion maps that give a 'faked' sense of lighting and shadows. This is what you're seeing in the submarine interior, on ships, etc.

I do agree with Monolith though; their absense isn't as immersion killing as it would be say in BF2. However, after playing certain games (Crysis), it's hard to view any other existing games in the same way, graphically speaking.

tonschk 03-10-08 12:24 PM

It`s a pity , no shadows in this SH4 game :down: , other less realistic simulators like Battlestation Midway have shadows

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...schk/BSM-3.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...1204171249.jpg

DavyJonesFootlocker 03-10-08 12:37 PM

SH4- a game without shadows
a game with a lot of reflections.:yep:

Galanti 03-10-08 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonschk
It`s a pity , no shadows in this SH4 game :down: , other less realistic simulators like Battlestation Midway have shadows


Yes, but without wakes it would seem.:roll: Also, that shot of BM doesn't seem to have much in the way of lighting, reflections or specular mapping.

I'll take SH3's graphics and atmosphere over any other PTO game/sim out there - hands down. Like many other ppl, I never noticed the lack of shadows until you brought it up.

Paajtor 03-11-08 03:22 PM

With the changes I posted above, I was hoping to enable shadows for the watch-crew...about the only spot where I miss the effect.
Anything else doesn't matter that much, as I usually view it through a periscope lol.

-Pv- 03-11-08 05:00 PM

The reflections SH4 projects is good enough for me.
-Pv-

CCIP 03-11-08 05:04 PM

Yea, honestly, it's not such a big deal. Especially considering that at high realism, you don't get a perspective from which you'd be seeing a lot of shadows :88)

Torps 03-11-08 10:07 PM

shadows
 
I think the setting your looking for is enviornment effects, that adds shadows btw.

seaniam81 03-11-08 10:55 PM

I didn't even notice but not that it would matter SH4 is already pushing the limits of my PC I dont think it could handle more

tonschk 03-12-08 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torps
I think the setting your looking for is enviornment effects, that adds shadows btw.

(I adjust the settings for full resolution ),It seems that the only shadows in SH4 are the some fake shadows in which the objects and people have dark side and clear side but dont project shadows and therefore not full realistic shadows ,I think somebody before called this "grainy effect" in which everything looks darker older and dirty , like an old movie

Thanks for all the replies.

CaptainHaplo 03-12-08 08:17 PM

As a sub commander at war - I see plenty of shadow! I have a number of men that my decisions mean life or death for, not counting my own! Attacking a convoy, evading a destroyer, diving from a plane - trust me - more than enough "shadows" out there created by this game for my tastes. I have even had to wonder - was that a plane we thought we saw, or a "frigate" bird? We didn't stay surfaced long enough to find out!

Don't get me wrong - I know what your saying - but the game for me provides enough "situational awareness" and "realism" that I don't notice a few graphical details missing. Would it be nice to have - yea probably - but in my list of things wished for being added/fixed - its pretty low on my personal list. Still - a good sharp eye for detail.


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