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Kpt. Lehmann 02-19-08 05:47 AM

Deck Gun Viewport Camera to be destabilized in GWX 2.1
 
For the release of GWX 1.0 we detabilized the laser guided aim of the player U-boat AI crew using the deck gun.

Following the release of GWX 2.1, direct usage of the deck gun by the player is now destabilized effectively destroying the uber-accuracy when used by the player.

Warning... arcade players will HATE this modification. It will become default GWX material and no optional mod to remove it will be included with the GWX 2.1 update.

This change should help knock the incessant deck gun debating on its head. Reload times, rate-of-fire, and potential damage debates won't matter much when you have hell just hitting the target. Indeed, your AI crew (even though they are not very accurate due to their own previously existing destabilization coding) will be much more effective than your own manning of the deck gun.

Ammunition expenditure should go up... and early war "uber tonnage deck gun patrols" should be lessened as a result.

MP4 video download... deck gun viewport destabilzation:

http://rapidshare.com/files/93102094...camera.7z.html

Way to go Privateer! Another game limitation smashed.:rock:

(Theoretically, I guess we should destabilize the UZO as well... but methinks even the hardest of the hardcore guys may want to lynch us for that one.)

3Jane 02-19-08 05:59 AM

This is the zoomed view/range fiders for the deck gun, just to check. As for the UZO, that should be destabalised as well. If the bridge is moving, the master-sight should move as well. :p

Kpt. Lehmann 02-19-08 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3Jane
This is the zoomed view/range fiders for the deck gun, just to check. As for the UZO, that should be destabalised as well. If the bridge is moving, the master-sight should move as well. :p

Just to clarify. All zoom levels for the deck gun are affected. The camera destabilization is more evident with each zoom level.

Dowly 02-19-08 06:05 AM

Good call, El Kapitan & the team. :up:

FIREWALL 02-19-08 06:13 AM

I live fo this. :smug:

Sailor Steve 02-19-08 06:16 AM

Just watched it.

Brilliant!:rock:

FIREWALL 02-19-08 06:26 AM

Hi S.S. Good Morning. :sunny: It's 3:30 am here I guess were both up early.:up:

Sailor Steve 02-19-08 06:30 AM

Yep, 4:32 now here in Salt Lake. I went to bed early, and was awakened just after midnight by my two roommates crashing things in the front hall. Seems one of them found a 40" TV advertised online for free, and they made a 60-mile round trip to get it.

I loaded up SH3 for a late dinner, and then came here for dessert.

Letum 02-19-08 06:59 AM

Could you turn stabilization ON for the attack scope?
This would be historical as it had a device to stabilise the image.

Madox58 02-19-08 07:32 AM

I can't view the video.
Is it V1 or V2?
:doh:

Boris 02-19-08 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum
Could you turn stabilization ON for the attack scope?
This would be historical as it had a device to stabilise the image.

That option will still be in the realism menu... right? Why is this a realism option anyway?

Letum 02-19-08 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris
Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum
Could you turn stabilization ON for the attack scope?
This would be historical as it had a device to stabilise the image.

That option will still be in the realism menu... right? Why is this a realism option anyway?

because the SH3 devs wrongly assumed there was no stabilisation device.

FIREWALL 02-19-08 08:14 AM

Sounds like your roommates scored bigtime :D

Erich Topp 02-19-08 10:22 AM

Well, do you want to have your leg cutted instead of curing your kneel one day?)) I guess not. In reality ships could take 70-80 shell hits to sink. Hits. Not shots. Reducing "killing shot" probability didn't removes the split problem at all. And why? 'cause of "hollywood effects"? Eyes-candy of flying debris? Bah.
Good news, anyway)) More work to do after release for tweaking mod.
Problems are in the heads first, in the mods second. Damn, it's so hard to lower damage radius? Few mins in the tweaker program. "Hollywood effects" is more important, yeah?

Meridian 02-19-08 10:27 AM

Sorry, doesn't seem that realistic to me.....

I've always hung bernard by the throat from the end of the barrel so it doesn't move as much. :rotfl:

Nice job guys.

Oberon 02-19-08 10:31 AM

Good work guys, and I've always loved using the Deck gun! :up:

danlisa 02-19-08 10:37 AM

Good job guys.:up:

Now, destabalize the UZO. You know you want to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erich Topp
Well, do you want to have your leg cutted instead of curing your kneel one day?)) I guess not. In reality ships could take 70-80 shell hits to sink. Hits. Not shots. Reducing "killing shot" probability didn't removes the split problem at all. And why? 'cause of "hollywood effects"? Eyes-candy of flying debris? Bah.

Good news, anyway)) More work to do after release for tweaking mod.
Problems are in the heads first, in the mods second.

:roll: Jeez, You don't quit do you!

Make your choice:

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Attention.png

Erich Topp 02-19-08 10:42 AM

)) It's easier to quit someone, than to speak your arguments? Sure. I forget. GWX team is always right)) I am not breaking forum rules I guess. Discussing thread topic - new "feature". I agree that's nice to have destabilized optics for DG. But i don't agree that this is "splitting problem" salvation. Where my logic is wrong? Oh, I forgot again, every logic, which differs from yours, is wrong. Sorry, mate))

Sailor Steve 02-19-08 11:19 AM

I don't think the problem is whether the GWX team is right or wrong, and I don't think I could be accused of defending them, since I just complained about part of the mod in another thread. The problem people have is that you don't suggest changes; you insist that you are right and they should listen, and if they disagree you become rude and mean. If they have the arrogance to give their side of the argument, you strongly announce that they think they can never be wrong and because of that they are even more wrong.

This is a good example. Instead of saying you still think they should make the guns weaker, you immediately start ranting about cutting legs off and 'Hollywood effects'. If you were more polite, more people might listen. Nobody wants to hear someone walk into a room and start screaming at people, and nobody wants to read it, either.

nikbear 02-19-08 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann
For the release of GWX 1.0 we detabilized the laser guided aim of the player U-boat AI crew using the deck gun.

Following the release of GWX 2.1, direct usage of the deck gun by the player is now destabilized effectively destroying the uber-accuracy when used by the player.

Warning... arcade players will HATE this modification. It will become default GWX material and no optional mod to remove it will be included with the GWX 2.1 update.

This change should help knock the incessant deck gun debating on its head. Reload times, rate-of-fire, and potential damage debates won't matter much when you have hell just hitting the target. Indeed, your AI crew (even though they are not very accurate due to their own previously existing destabilization coding) will be much more effective than your own manning of the deck gun.

Ammunition expenditure should go up... and early war "uber tonnage deck gun patrols" should be lessened as a result.

MP4 video download... deck gun viewport destabilzation:

http://rapidshare.com/files/93102094...camera.7z.html

Way to go Privateer! Another game limitation smashed.:rock:

(Theoretically, I guess we should destabilize the UZO as well... but methinks even the hardest of the hardcore guys may want to lynch us for that one.)

If we are going down the realism route,could the ability to use the (destabilized)deck gun in the rain be included in the update,or is that going to far;) It troubles me that the devs seem to be driven by a small minority's unrealistic patrol results,rather than considering the vast majority of players.why not make this an option and cater for all,rather than making it default and risk alienating the more casual or less advanced player all because of a small minority's foolish bragging.
Not everyone has the time or inclination to make this game a way of life,by its very nature they want to play GWX and see all the beauty and wealth of things that have been created and SINK things,its a game!after all,and games are meant to be enjoyed:up: people like my missus who have enough trouble getting out of the harbour are going to stand next to no-chance of sinking something at this rate:nope:


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