Democratic Race
 

Ok everyone...per my last post on the "Who will be the next president" poll, here we go. Please mark what you think will happen on the Democratic side since this is the tightest race we've seen for the nomination.

The DNC invalidated the Florida & Michigan contests, I doubt they'll go back on that.

Personally, I think we're going to see a clear result in a few weeks, not immediately.
At a glance, Obama raised $32m in January, and last night Hillary loaned her campaign $5m of her own cash.

O'bama? Hell yeah :0

http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0315/obamab.html

You will never see them running together, neither one will take a back seat as VP. I believe Obama will slowly pull ahead and Hillary will not catch up. She is already digging into her personal bank account for campaigning, yet Obama just got millions in donations the day after super Tuesday. Financially, Obama can carry on with this race. It is clear where this is heading.

Even though I'm not American, I prefer Obama. He seems more down to earth. But as we've seen before, it takes serious work to convert political words into political progress. :hmm:

But as we've seen before, it takes serious work to convert political words into political progress. :hmm:


Never a truer statement KP!!!!

I don't think any of the three options is valid. I can only offer anecdotes from my voting in Bethlehem NM. Obama buttons outnumbered Clinton buttons by a 2-to-1 margin and even the stray Republicans who wandered in by mistake said they were votong for Obama if he's the dem candidiate. That included the life-long thirtysomething white lady Republican barber who cut my hair after I voted.

My prediction for a likely Dem VP would be our own governor Bill Richardson who would help secure the Hispanic vote as the first Hispanic VP. Obama would be wise to consider him as well with Richarson's foreign policy credentials.

You know, I had the strangest dream last night. I kid you not, for the whole night I dreamt of having lunch with Clinton and Obama, because I was supposedly their mutual friend :rotfl:Boy was there tension there! But they were both rather strong personalities in my dream. I guess it was a bit symbolic, but the more I heard of Obama the more I sided with him.

I guess that's true in reality that, well, prolonging the race should generally play against Clinton's favour. It's possible that it might be against them both in the long run (i.e. damaging them for elections), but personally I think so far Obama is really benefitting from it.

I would like Obama to win, actually. He stands a better chance against McCain than Clinton, I think. But I'm not yet certain he can pull it. I'll give it a couple more primaries before I make a firm prediction on this race :yep:

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And since I ought to answer the thread's question - well, again, I'd give it a couple of more races. But I personally don't think that with those two personalities, they'll concede to one being president, the other VP. At least not right now when it's so close to call.

I think Obama will win and Biden could be his VP.

I agree they will never come together....which is one of two reasons why the Dems will lose the election no matter who they put up front.

Because they cannot unite is why they will lose along with the Racial/Bigot/No Woman will ever lead factors...

I choose to look at the world the way it is and it is a racial,predjudiced place....a city,country,nation,world,party etc divided against itself will fall...facts of life here.For it to be a Deomcratic Race of who has the most money is pathetic....McCain didn't let lack of funds get him down....he had said so long as he had gas money for his bus he'd stay in it and I know he would have...hell he would have hitch hiked. :)

After it is clear which current Dem will get it's party nomination I think many will vote against they're party for McCain which is why he will be President.

I think you're right.

I respectfully disagree. The Republicans appear to have a clear front-runner now and they're still bickering and moaning that he isn't conservative enough. Both Hillary and Obama are beginning to say regardless of which of them gets the nod, the party must stay united behind the nominee. There'll be disappointment when one of them is selected--that's to be expected--but it will not result in the Democratic being divided. They have too much determination to retake the White House to allow that to happen.

Personally, I like McCain and respect his zeal for serving his country above his self-interests. But I don't think he has a snowball's chance in a pottery kiln of winning in November.

What he said.

And also, OBAMA FOR THE WIN!

I see him having better chances than Clinton as candidate, and Obama having better chances than McCain if this is the duel in November. Clinton is the opponent that is the more established, "typical" one, and McCain's arsenal suits well to deal with her. Obama is the untypical, nonestablished guy, and Mccain will see it much more difficult to deal with him. no matter what, any of these three will be it, and what is the old saying: wenn zwei sich streiten, freut sich der dritte, but it also depends on wether Republicans will find back to more uniting and rallying behind their unloved candidate, or not.... I don't put any bet.

I personally admire McCain as a person, but I don't like his politics (any man who spends 4 years of his life in a VC prison camp and endures torture like he did has my instant respect). Obama, I feel, has a better chance than Clinton or McCain. He might be black, but he's a man (everybody knows the Senate would never want a woman as a president) and the people of the United States are calling for a Democrat to resolve the situation. He's black, but he's still got the upper hand over Clinton and McCain (I think McCain might have done better if he had run as a Democrat).

I don't trust either Obama or Clinton.
Clinton for obvious reasons, and Obama, well call it gut instinct just can't but my finger on it.

Most annoying kid ever :rotfl:

From US News & World Report
 

Ok...here's something to take into consideration regarding my poll.

Obama, Clinton Head Toward Contested Convention

A fight to the finish

By Kent Garber
Posted February 8, 2008

In the wake of all the excitement of Super Tuesday, writers and pundits alike began to trumpet the rather shadowy-sounding claim that the battle between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama could end up being decided at a "brokered convention." But just what does that mean?

In a Brokered Convention, both Candidates vie for delegate support. This can mean some cloak-room deals take place as they meet face to face to discuss issues. There can be a lot of "You scratch my back and I'll scratch your's" deals that occur in a brokered convention. It isn't what anyone could really define as a "Democratic Process". But there is the irony. The United States is actually a Republic before it is a Democracy ("...and the Republic, for which it stands..."). The Electoral College elects the president and--as we know--they can over-rule the popular vote.

What I'd prefer to see if neither Hillary or Obama gain enough delegates to become the candidate, is the Popular Vote to make the decision (who had the most votes). But that's just a dream I have...

If the Democratic Race comes down to a Brokered Convention, there is sure to be a lot of wallets opening an closing. Advantage: Hillary in that scenario. She has more experience with special interest groups than Obama. And I fear she's not above selling out a couple points to get (buy) the office.

One of the great dangers for USA is more elections being decided against the popular vote. Americans are already angry. I'm not sure they'd react well to having the less popular candidate appointed by invisible players in back rooms. If things don't change, if Washington remains "Business as usual", if the general population continues to be left out and ignored in the next 4 years, don't expect the US population to just give up and mope in their bedrooms. What may be more likely is to see them walk into HR offices across the country and file tax exempt so as to not have to pay into the federal government until taxes are due in April. That's legal and could very well break the Federal governments back and give a lot more power at state level.

Don't think it could happen? Show me one country who's political structure hasn't been changed by some sort of revolution. All governments change in time. Sometimes the change is relatively peaceful. Sometimes it isn't.

That's really why the election this year is so important. It is a Historical time for US politics. Will we come out the other side stronger? Or will we emerge as something "completely different"?

History repeats itself. It has always been the nations who felt themselves to be so strong that they were impervious to being overthrown that have had the hardest falls.

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Same here, but in my case I feel Obama is too young.

That's why I'm happy McCain will probably walk away with the Republican nod. I can actually stomach him more than the other two, neither of which I trust at all, and I am a Democrat.