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SUBMAN1 01-18-08 05:35 PM

Windows 7 early release version already shipping to key accounts?
 
Vista is on schedule for one VERY SHORT LIFE! :up: THis is good, not real happy with it as an OS myself (If you guys couldn't have guessed already!).

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/35641/118/

-S

SUBMAN1 01-18-08 05:50 PM

If anyone noticed - that kernel only takes up a small 40 MB of memory for WIndows 7. Seems are 512 MB bloat monster in Vista is going away! :up:

-S

PS. NEver mind. THis is just someone ripping the kernel apart, not the default kernel.

SUBMAN1 01-18-08 06:08 PM

Inside scoop - Just talked with someone working on the project - TOms Hardware is blowing it way out of proportion. Not only is it not widely distributed as TGDaily says, but its an incredibly early version.

Ignore TGDaily on the above story. The M1 build is barely working. What is even going to be included in it is still way to early to tell.

-S

Blacklight 01-18-08 06:25 PM

What they need to do is come up with a kernal that can handle software from all their prior operating systems without us having to make our systems multi-boot and have each system taking up valuable space on our hard drives. I mean.. DOSBOX is a great program and all, but we need a "WINDOWS 98 BOX" etc..
It would be nice if they would actually do something like that.. but I know they won't. I have so much cool old software that I love to run that I just can't say goodbye to and have had to jump through hoops to get them to run just under XP alone.. let alone the ones that wouldn't run at all.:down:

I worked as a computer tech and I can't tell you the ammount of stuff I've loaded on Vista machines.. and these programs were within maybe two years old and they weren't compattable... let alone the hardware issues I've had with it.

Skybird 01-18-08 06:36 PM

Let it be stable.
Let it be compatible.
Let it be tight and safe and secure.
Let it be supported by drivers.
Let it be simple in options, handling and structure.
Let it be running on as little ressources as possible.

Let it be the empty screen on which the film is projected. Let it not be mistaken for the film itself. Let it be blessed with the virtue of modesty, then.

For cars there is a simple rule: the less complex, the more solid, the fewer problems. OS-makers can learn some desirable goals from that.

Officerpuppy 01-18-08 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird
Let it be stable.
Let it be compatible.
Let it be tight and safe and secure.
Let it be supported by drivers.
Let it be simple in options, handling and structure.
Let it be running on as little ressources as possible.

Let it be the empty screen on which the film is projected. Let it not be mistaken for the film itself. Let it be blessed with the virtue of modesty, then.

For cars there is a simple rule: the less complex, the more solid, the fewer problems. OS-makers can learn some desirable goals from that.


Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be.
Whisper words of wisdom, let it be. :up:

kiwi_2005 01-18-08 07:06 PM

Well for what it's worth, I installed the Vista beta SP1 and Vista does feel better . One thing I noticed straight away was when deleting a folder full of files, it doesn't sit there for 5 minutes working out what it needs to delete, it just takes about 5 seconds and its all done. That's an 'A' in my books.

baggygreen 01-18-08 07:21 PM

and an F for you using it ;) :lol:

Seriously though, I dont see that they can make it any worse at all, really.... you'd hope any service pack has vast improvements!:D

kiwi_2005 01-18-08 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baggygreen
and an F for you using it ;) :lol:

Seriously though, I dont see that they can make it any worse at all, really.... you'd hope any service pack has vast improvements!:D

:) Really it has it moments but Vista aint that bad. :) and before you ask i use XP as well.

JSLTIGER 01-18-08 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird
Let it be stable.
Let it be compatible.
Let it be tight and safe and secure.
Let it be supported by drivers.
Let it be simple in options, handling and structure.
Let it be running on as little ressources as possible.

Let it be the empty screen on which the film is projected. Let it not be mistaken for the film itself. Let it be blessed with the virtue of modesty, then.

For cars there is a simple rule: the less complex, the more solid, the fewer problems. OS-makers can learn some desirable goals from that.

Well, barring the final "Let it be.." above, Vista does fit the bill.

baggygreen 01-18-08 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005
Quote:

Originally Posted by baggygreen
and an F for you using it ;) :lol:

Seriously though, I dont see that they can make it any worse at all, really.... you'd hope any service pack has vast improvements!:D

:) Really it has it moments but Vista aint that bad. :) and before you ask i use XP as well.

Thats a relief!:rotfl:

Sea Demon 01-18-08 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird
Let it be stable.
Let it be compatible.
Let it be tight and safe and secure.
Let it be supported by drivers.
Let it be simple in options, handling and structure.
Let it be running on as little ressources as possible.

That's a pretty good list. If by compatible on your list, I'm hoping for backwards compatibility for much of the software I use, not just gaming software. When new OS's come out, I'm sick of guessing and crossing my fingers when I try to install and execute applications I currently use.

Kapitan_Phillips 01-18-08 08:57 PM

And no-one else is concerned by this short development period? What, is this like, Vista SP2?

Sea Demon 01-18-08 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips
And no-one else is concerned by this short development period? What, is this like, Vista SP2?

Good point. I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a rework of Vista of some type. If MS decides to go this route, they are literally shooting themselves in the foot. And Skybird's list of requests won't likely be met. We'll see........

silentrunner 01-18-08 11:16 PM

I really don't know why everyone hates Vista. I thought I was going to go mad using XP. Vista home premium works faster than any other operating system I have ever used.

Skybird 01-19-08 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSLTIGER
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird
Let it be stable.
Let it be compatible.
Let it be tight and safe and secure.
Let it be supported by drivers.
Let it be simple in options, handling and structure.
Let it be running on as little ressources as possible.

Let it be the empty screen on which the film is projected. Let it not be mistaken for the film itself. Let it be blessed with the virtue of modesty, then.

For cars there is a simple rule: the less complex, the more solid, the fewer problems. OS-makers can learn some desirable goals from that.

Well, barring the final "Let it be.." above, Vista does fit the bill.

Does it? :hmm:
Massive complaints on compatability.
Massive complaints on driver support.
Not exactly the simpliest structure.
Runs not on as lowest but very massive ammounts of hardware ressources.
It is presented and designed in a way as if it is the software you want to run at a given time, a game, thus the high demands in RAM and graphicscards. It's not just a screen, it is like the movie you go for when visiting the cinema.
It is very complex obviously, is not the most solid operation platform (even worse with less than 2 GB RAM), and has quite a lot of problems.

If it would meet the list's criterion, customers would not be so antipathic about it - even after one year. Business almost boycotts it, probably most Vistas sold to private people are preinstalled on new complete systems. Many people are reported to have upgraded :) to XP.

Letum 01-19-08 04:09 AM

Let it be open source
Let it be free
Let it be modified by the community

kiwi_2005 01-19-08 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird
Quote:

Originally Posted by JSLTIGER
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird
Let it be stable.
Let it be compatible.
Let it be tight and safe and secure.
Let it be supported by drivers.
Let it be simple in options, handling and structure.
Let it be running on as little ressources as possible.

Let it be the empty screen on which the film is projected. Let it not be mistaken for the film itself. Let it be blessed with the virtue of modesty, then.

For cars there is a simple rule: the less complex, the more solid, the fewer problems. OS-makers can learn some desirable goals from that.

Well, barring the final "Let it be.." above, Vista does fit the bill.

Does it? :hmm:
Massive complaints on compatability.
Massive complaints on driver support.
Not exactly the simpliest structure.
Runs not on as lowest but very massive ammounts of hardware ressources.
It is presented and designed in a way as if it is the software you want to run at a given time, a game, thus the high demands in RAM and graphicscards. It's not just a screen, it is like the movie you go for when visiting the cinema.
It is very complex obviously, is not the most solid operation platform (even worse with less than 2 GB RAM), and has quite a lot of problems.

If it would meet the list's criterion, customers would not be so antipathic about it - even after one year. Business almost boycotts it, probably most Vistas sold to private people are preinstalled on new complete systems. Many people are reported to have upgraded :) to XP.

When XP came out people said the same thing except the ram difference was 256mb ram for XP most had 64mb or 128 but when service pack 1 then two came out 256 was not enough. XP was buggy as hell, this is a sht os give me Windows98se anyday while the techs stayed with ( and some still do) Windows 2000 Professional.
In fact Win2k with service pack 4 beats XP pro hands down - gaming wise XP wins.

Dont be scared its only an OS give Vista time and it will be stable as, with 2gigs its stable enough as it is but it can be better i admit. What do we expect its MS all their OS's come out screaming like a baby. :lol:

STEED 01-19-08 09:38 AM

We shall see if it sinks or swims. ;)

SUBMAN1 01-19-08 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silentrunner
I really don't know why everyone hates Vista. I thought I was going to go mad using XP. Vista home premium works faster than any other operating system I have ever used.

Hahahahaah! Funniest damn thing I read all day! You are joking aren't you? I have a combination of OS's in this very room, and Vista is the slowest of them all! :D:D:D So I hope you are.

-S

PS. If not, seems you probably had too much loaded bloat on your XP (And I dear say - a LOT of it), or you bought new hardware that was approximately 3 times faster than your older system at the time of install. :D


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