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SUBMAN1 12-27-07 11:54 AM

Traffic cams in the UK getting torched?
 
ANyway, this page may be interesting for you UK'rs:

http://www.speedcam.co.uk/index2.htm

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Tchocky 12-27-07 12:16 PM

Obviously traffic laws don't apply to these people, and neither do property rights.
Ugh. Self-interest masquerading as moral citizenship.

SUBMAN1 12-27-07 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky
Obviously traffic laws don't apply to these people, and neither do property rights.
Ugh. Self-interest masquerading as moral citizenship.

I kind of hate your surveilance society (1984 anyone?). If I lived there, I'd tell them to have at it! :D

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Tchocky 12-27-07 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchocky
Obviously traffic laws don't apply to these people, and neither do property rights.
Ugh. Self-interest masquerading as moral citizenship.

I kind of hate your surveilance society (1984 anyone?). If I lived there, I'd tell them to have at it! :D

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If I lived there, I'd ask these people why they're above the law.

lesrae 12-27-07 12:36 PM

I've seen this POS website before, they're wanabee superheroes trying to justify costing the taxpayer money. I talk to people in the pub all the time that moan about speed cameras quoting human rights, big brother yadda yadda...

My attitude is that we all know the speed limit in this country, if you break it (as I usually do) and manage to get caught by one of these big yellow cameras (as I don't) then you deserve what you get - those who bitch about them are usually those stupid enough to get caught.

STEED 12-28-07 07:24 AM

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Traffic cams in the UK getting torched?
Don't look at me. :smug:

I hear shotguns are good for a laugh. :yep:

PS: Don't look at me. ;)

danlisa 12-28-07 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by lesrae
......we all know the speed limit in this country, if you break it (as I usually do) and manage to get caught by one of these big yellow cameras (as I don't) then you deserve what you get - those who bitch about them are usually those stupid enough to get caught.

Agreed, however, they are not SPEED CAMERAS, they are Safety Cameras.;) As such, they have been introduced to areas which have a history of accidents IIRC 5 or more in the past 3 years. Note I don't say Traffic accidents, although it should be decided upon traffic related accidents, most safety cameras are not on locations where traffic accidents have occured but rather any random accident, this could be a doddery old lady tripping and hurting her ankle, just as long as it was recorded.

As such, there is huge distain here in the UK over these cameras because they have been introduced & billed as something they are not. They are a stealth tax gathering tool. Plain & simple. Do you expect anything different from today's UK government?

Burn them all!

BTW, Expanding Foam works well.;)
Also, a non-destructive way to disable them is to wrap them in cling film.:arrgh!:

STEED 12-28-07 07:43 AM

We know there are a percentage of speed cameras which are located in daft areas only for one reason to raise money, these are the ones that must be relocated to a spot where it really is needed.

XabbaRus 12-28-07 08:15 AM

I agree with soem of what is said but torching them costs more money, hence they probably put up more to cover thecost of torching. The ones near me are placed in warranted areas. But if you travel at the the limit you won't get caught, isn't that the point.

STEED 12-28-07 08:32 AM

Slightly off subject there is a junction near me which has no right hand turn and the number of cars who break the law here would make you laugh, there are about four or five signs leading up to the junction that say no right turn. :doh:

Tchocky 12-28-07 08:55 AM

If it's a "stealth tax", then the tax is levied on people who break the law.
As far as I'm concerned that's the end of the story.

Rotary Crewman 12-28-07 09:12 AM

A speed/safety/blackspot camera burning? Shame.

Kapitan_Phillips 12-28-07 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by lesrae
I've seen this POS website before, they're wanabee superheroes trying to justify costing the taxpayer money. I talk to people in the pub all the time that moan about speed cameras quoting human rights, big brother yadda yadda...

My attitude is that we all know the speed limit in this country, if you break it (as I usually do) and manage to get caught by one of these big yellow cameras (as I don't) then you deserve what you get - those who bitch about them are usually those stupid enough to get caught.


Agreed.
  • We have speed limits
  • There are huge signs telling you when cameras are about
  • They're painted bright yellow
  • There are lines on the ground marking its capture zone
If you fail to heed all of those little hints, then you deserve to get fined. Whats the point in bloody speeding, anyway. Last time I checked 'Get to work on time' wasnt a human right.

Weigh-Man 12-28-07 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky
If it's a "stealth tax", then the tax is levied on people who break the law.
As far as I'm concerned that's the end of the story.

I hope you don't suffer from vertigo up there on your pedestal:roll:

Tchocky 12-28-07 10:51 AM

Nah, it's nice and comfy. For further information, contact your local library, or Kapitan_Phillips' post above

Letum 12-28-07 02:03 PM

I dislike security cameras that watch people in the street 24/7. It is a oppressive
invasion of the privacy of law abiding people.

Speed cameras are different, they only watch inanimate objects (cars!) and they only take
pictures when the law has been broken, not 24/7. There is no significant invasion of privacy.


I would like to see the speed limited painted on the camera warning signs tho.

STEED 12-28-07 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum
I dislike security cameras that watch people in the street 24/7. It is a oppressive
invasion of the privacy of law abiding people.

Here, here. :yep:

lesrae 12-28-07 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum
I would like to see the speed limited painted on the camera warning signs tho.

I agree, it's easy to lose track of the limit especially in an area where the limit changes often - not being sure of what speed you should be doing just causes people to slam the anchors on when they finally spot the camera.

The arguments about cameras being in the wrong places is common, I guess the easiest solution to that one is just to put them everywhere - then there's no discrimination ;)

XabbaRus 12-28-07 04:40 PM

There is on camera near me which is in teh middle of the dual carriage way and they turn it 180 degrees every now and then to keep and eye on both directions. Now it is in an area that needs it as there are two roads going into the carriage way making a cross roads and there have been some nasty accidents there. Anyway the speed camera is visible from miles out and everyone knows it is a 70mph zone but still you get people doing 65 slamming on the anchors as soon as they get into the camera zone even if it is pointing the wrong way. Annoying very much indeed as this is more likely to cause an accident than someone keeping their speed constant.

TteFAboB 12-28-07 05:31 PM

Amateurs. When will you brits start burning real stuff, like busses?

And being a nuisance, instead of a full-front crushing assault, it will invite a slapping hand to deal with the pesky mosquito: more cameras to look and protect the cameras.


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